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Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:32 pm
by tuffers#1
dg1937 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:23 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:47 pm
dg1937 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:06 pm

You really have been very helpful, tuffers. I think I've almost worked it out but can you remember roughly what time of year it was?
I cant im afraid for sure
Im think it was the 0-0 in oct
The non goal was either end of 1st half
Or end of 2nd as we were in the Home section opposite the
tunnel, so side of the pitch as 8 remember seeing the players running down the tunnell.

The reason we were in the home end was the other game
the few O's fans got slightly attacked , drinks & stuff thrown.

So i assume the old man thought
Better to be a fox hiding among the hounds
Instead of alone in an open field .

I know we didnt win or lose .
So it could only be the 1-1 in 74 or the
0-0 whatever year that was.
Your responses have been very helpful, tuffers. I probably should have explained why I'm so interested. We are just putting the finishing touches to 'Football's Black Pioneers', a book celebrating the first black (or mixed heritage) player at each of the Football League clubs. I was trying to understand a story Bobby Fisher has told about the Millwall game where a knife was thrown. Some bits of the story didn't make sense, in particular, the record books show that Laurie Cunningham never scored a goal against Millwall and yet Bobby's story said that he did. Your recollection of a goal scored but disallowed has helped to make sense of something that didn't make sense at all.

I don't suppose you remember if Millwall's ground had high fences when you went? Bobby's story mentions fences but they weren't generally introduced until about 1978/79.

Cheers and thanks again.
There were small fences at the ground in front of the home end behind the goal ( not memory but old footage) & cage barriers if you like seperating blocks of terraces/seating .
Im pretty sure the tunnel area always had the fences by them as shown in the
Panorama video about millwalls hooligans .

I remember thinking the 1st time I was in the ground , it was like a mixture
of brisbane road & white hart lane but the fencing by the tunnell/gangway was a bit strange.


Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:28 pm
by tuffers#1
https://www.google.com/search?q=1974+th ... &prmd=ivsn

There are some black & white photos showing some of the small fencing as i mentioned of the old den .
Might make a bit more sense when you see them

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:36 pm
by KC & sunshine band
ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:32 am Thread ruined by dolts selecting games that were not league matches.
what about Chelsea in the cup win 3-2
what about Chelsea in the cup win 1-2
what about Leicester in the cup win 0-2
what about wrexham in the cup win 3-0
what about drroyledon i the cup win 8-2
what about Arsenal in the cup 1-1
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
lifes to short fred

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:04 pm
by Thor
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:28 pm https://www.google.com/search?q=1974+th ... &prmd=ivsn

There are some black & white photos showing some of the small fencing as i mentioned of the old den .
Might make a bit more sense when you see them
you mean non colour photos?

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:08 pm
by tuffers#1
Thor wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:04 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:28 pm https://www.google.com/search?q=1974+th ... &prmd=ivsn

There are some black & white photos showing some of the small fencing as i mentioned of the old den .
Might make a bit more sense when you see them
you mean non colour photos?
I wish you were a photo
Id rip it up & throw it in a bin.

Pointless comment !

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:39 pm
by Thor
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:08 pm
Thor wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:04 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:28 pm https://www.google.com/search?q=1974+th ... &prmd=ivsn

There are some black & white photos showing some of the small fencing as i mentioned of the old den .
Might make a bit more sense when you see them
you mean non colour photos?
I wish you were a photo
Id rip it up & throw it in a bin.

Pointless comment !
Bit like you a pointless person. See ya.

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:09 pm
by tuffers#1
Thor wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:39 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:08 pm
Thor wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:04 pm

you mean non colour photos?
I wish you were a photo
Id rip it up & throw it in a bin.

Pointless comment !
Bit like you a pointless person. See ya.
Rather be a Real person pointless or not
Than be a conspiracy theorist dreamt up in someone elses head.

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:23 am
by Orient Punxx
SouthStandDonut wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:39 am brentford 4 orient 3 ...1991 i think. the game that made ricky otto a hero to me
My late Mother became addicted to footy due to that game.

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:05 am
by dg1937
KC & sunshine band wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:07 pm hello boys
your dad was right to get out as soon as possible
some of their fans were dressed in white coats with masks, bizarre - lovely friendly chaps
we beat them 0-1 bullock in 1973, and drew 1-1 fairbother in 1974
waiting for the train the charming individuals were on a bridge throwing stuff at the os supporters
one nil to the orient , one nil to the orient
lovely bunch of people
Hello, KC. It sounds as though you might have been at the match at the Den in December 1974 (the 1-1). I'm trying to piece together what actually happened that day. There are newspaper reports that a knife was thrown as the players left the pitch. Can you recall anything about the events on the pitch that might have led up to that?

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:50 pm
by tuffers#1
dg1937 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:05 am
KC & sunshine band wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:07 pm hello boys
your dad was right to get out as soon as possible
some of their fans were dressed in white coats with masks, bizarre - lovely friendly chaps
we beat them 0-1 bullock in 1973, and drew 1-1 fairbother in 1974
waiting for the train the charming individuals were on a bridge throwing stuff at the os supporters
one nil to the orient , one nil to the orient
lovely bunch of people
Hello, KC. It sounds as though you might have been at the match at the Den in December 1974 (the 1-1). I'm trying to piece together what actually happened that day. There are newspaper reports that a knife was thrown as the players left the pitch. Can you recall anything about the events on the pitch that might have led up to that?
Why would events on the pitch lead to a knife being thrown?

Surely the knife being in the ground is the STORY,
Regardless of what may have happened.

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:20 pm
by KC & sunshine band
dg1937 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:05 am
KC & sunshine band wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:07 pm hello boys
your dad was right to get out as soon as possible
some of their fans were dressed in white coats with masks, bizarre - lovely friendly chaps
we beat them 0-1 bullock in 1973, and drew 1-1 fairbother in 1974
waiting for the train the charming individuals were on a bridge throwing stuff at the os supporters
one nil to the orient , one nil to the orient
lovely bunch of people
Hello, KC. It sounds as though you might have been at the match at the Den in December 1974 (the 1-1). I'm trying to piece together what actually happened that day. There are newspaper reports that a knife was thrown as the players left the pitch. Can you recall anything about the events on the pitch that might have led up to that?
All I remember is sitting on my hands for most of the game because it was so intimidating. The aim was to get home safe and sound.
As an aside in 1970 the year we got promoted, I was doing the programmes west stand, north end. It was about 13.30 and the gates were not even open and about 100 Millwall fans kicked the gate down - At the front was a skin head lady, I run as fast as i could down the stand and across the pitch, I would have beaten Usain Bolt !! And they pinched all me programmes!!
drew 0-0

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:06 pm
by Ornchurch
KC & sunshine band wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:20 pm
dg1937 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:05 am
KC & sunshine band wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:07 pm hello boys
your dad was right to get out as soon as possible
some of their fans were dressed in white coats with masks, bizarre - lovely friendly chaps
we beat them 0-1 bullock in 1973, and drew 1-1 fairbother in 1974
waiting for the train the charming individuals were on a bridge throwing stuff at the os supporters
one nil to the orient , one nil to the orient
lovely bunch of people
Hello, KC. It sounds as though you might have been at the match at the Den in December 1974 (the 1-1). I'm trying to piece together what actually happened that day. There are newspaper reports that a knife was thrown as the players left the pitch. Can you recall anything about the events on the pitch that might have led up to that?
All I remember is sitting on my hands for most of the game because it was so intimidating. The aim was to get home safe and sound.
As an aside in 1970 the year we got promoted, I was doing the programmes west stand, north end. It was about 13.30 and the gates were not even open and about 100 Millwall fans kicked the gate down - At the front was a skin head lady, I run as fast as i could down the stand and across the pitch, I would have beaten Usain Bolt !! And they pinched all me programmes!!
drew 0-0
Wonder if she is still a skin? :lol:

Re: Favourite Orient League Match

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:04 pm
by KC & sunshine band
Ornchurch wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:06 pm
KC & sunshine band wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:20 pm
dg1937 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:05 am

Hello, KC. It sounds as though you might have been at the match at the Den in December 1974 (the 1-1). I'm trying to piece together what actually happened that day. There are newspaper reports that a knife was thrown as the players left the pitch. Can you recall anything about the events on the pitch that might have led up to that?
All I remember is sitting on my hands for most of the game because it was so intimidating. The aim was to get home safe and sound.
As an aside in 1970 the year we got promoted, I was doing the programmes west stand, north end. It was about 13.30 and the gates were not even open and about 100 Millwall fans kicked the gate down - At the front was a skin head lady, I run as fast as i could down the stand and across the pitch, I would have beaten Usain Bolt !! And they pinched all me programmes!!
drew 0-0
Wonder if she is still a skin? :lol:
blonde, short, very attractive, big fists and a scowl
:lol: