Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:01 pm

EH16 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:58 pm

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:05 am On a board they run a user was bullied and baited to the point where we became genuinely concerned about their well-being.

Rather than acknowledging that they have allowed the atmosphere which caused such a situation they go around throwing bans at people who ask genuine questions about how this place could be improved.

Then they have the audacity to claim the moral high ground by claiming that certain threads are “not the place” to ask these questions.

If I were moderating a message board which has resulted in people genuinely concerning for the welfare of another user (one which I’d tried to wind up in the past) id be ashamed of myself rather than trying to cover it up and deflecting attention to others.

I don't have answers. The way to improve things is for people to stop behaving like cnuts. But I've been waiting for that for decades and it don't look like it's gonna happen.

I think banning people who openly and directly call others Cs (not talking about you, but someone else from last week) would be a good start.

But the moderators don’t think that is worthy of a ban, but people questioning the standard of moderation is.

I suspect I will get a perma ban shortly for the crime of questioning how moderation is done here.

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:52 pm
as I said, all it needed was a little bit of self reflection and to ask yourself “do we run this place in an acceptable way”. Instead you went down the route of hounding the one user who asked the question.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:59 am The only complaint from me is PW slightly weird power trips that happen on genuine threads. Like the crypto ones and my one about orient having a black manager. And me being called all sorts of names with no repercussions.

Saying that, I don’t lose sleep over it. It’s not that important.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:03 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:59 am The only complaint from me is PW slightly weird power trips that happen on genuine threads. Like the crypto ones and my one about orient having a black manager. And me being called all sorts of names with no repercussions.

Saying that, I don’t lose sleep over it. It’s not that important.

Crypto- hugely damaging to the environment FACT. Irresponsible to encourage others to invest in magic beans.

Your thread about our 'first black manager' was needlessly provocative because you named boarders as racists for no reason. Spoilt an otherwise good thread.

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:40 pm Doesn’t prove anything. As I said, you’re convincing
people who don’t understand IP addresses that this mean anything.

The lengths you’re going to because somebody criticised how you moderate this board is incredibly amusing and continues to prove my initial point.

You could have just gone “yeah, we will have a think about how we moderate this place in future”, instead you’ve gone on some obsessive pursuit to discredit me. The funniest part is that even if your proof amounted to anything it still wouldn’t negate my initial point about the shoddy standard of moderation on this board.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:08 pm

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:40 pm Doesn’t prove anything. As I said, you’re convincing
people who don’t understand IP addresses that this mean anything.

The lengths you’re going to because somebody criticised how you moderate this board is incredibly amusing and continues to prove my initial point.

You could have just gone “yeah, we will have a think about how we moderate this place in future”, instead you’ve gone on some obsessive pursuit to discredit me. The funniest part is that even if your proof amounted to anything it still wouldn’t negate my initial point about the shoddy standard of moderation on this board.

Its not impossible for people using the same ISP to have posted from the same IP address, thats true. But 77 times from the same IP as you?

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:33 pm Shoot the sparrows.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:25 pm 77 is right there in the screenshot Admin posted.

Also 'Esteban' posted over 600 times from the same IP you registered with. User also had a tendency for indignant behavior.

Back on topic- what are your proposals to improve moderation?

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:14 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:25 pm 77 is right there in the screenshot Admin posted.

Also 'Esteban' posted over 600 times from the same IP you registered with. User also had a tendency for indignant behavior.

Back on topic- what are your proposals to improve moderation?

Still proves nothing. IP address is not confirmation of identity.


My suggestion for improving the moderation of the board is simple:

If you’re going to ban people for questioning the moderation of this board, then also ban people who call others a C on the same thread.

To be honest, a simple acknowledgment that banning me for questioning your moderation whilst letting another user call people a C was unfair and misjudged would be enough to put this all to bed.

Admin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:20 pm

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:14 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:25 pm 77 is right there in the screenshot Admin posted.

Also 'Esteban' posted over 600 times from the same IP you registered with. User also had a tendency for indignant behavior.

Back on topic- what are your proposals to improve moderation?

Still proves nothing. IP address is not confirmation of identity.


My suggestion for improving the moderation of the board is simple:

If you’re going to ban people for questioning the moderation of this board, then also ban people who call others a C on the same thread.

To be honest, a simple acknowledgment that banning me for questioning your moderation whilst letting another user call people a C was unfair and misjudged would be enough to put this all to bed.

So your constructive criticism is for us to agree that you've been unfairly banned.

f*** off.

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:14 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:25 pm 77 is right there in the screenshot Admin posted.

Also 'Esteban' posted over 600 times from the same IP you registered with. User also had a tendency for indignant behavior.

Back on topic- what are your proposals to improve moderation?

Still proves nothing. IP address is not confirmation of identity.


My suggestion for improving the moderation of the board is simple:

If you’re going to ban people for questioning the moderation of this board, then also ban people who call others a C on the same thread.

To be honest, a simple acknowledgment that banning me for questioning your moderation whilst letting another user call people a C was unfair and misjudged would be enough to put this all to bed.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:03 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:59 am The only complaint from me is PW slightly weird power trips that happen on genuine threads. Like the crypto ones and my one about orient having a black manager. And me being called all sorts of names with no repercussions.

Saying that, I don’t lose sleep over it. It’s not that important.

Crypto- hugely damaging to the environment FACT. Irresponsible to encourage others to invest in magic beans.

Your thread about our 'first black manager' was needlessly provocative because you named boarders as racists for no reason. Spoilt an otherwise good thread.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:07 pm Is Huxley Lucky 7 too?

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:14 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:25 pm 77 is right there in the screenshot Admin posted.

Also 'Esteban' posted over 600 times from the same IP you registered with. User also had a tendency for indignant behavior.

Back on topic- what are your proposals to improve moderation?

Still proves nothing. IP address is not confirmation of identity.


My suggestion for improving the moderation of the board is simple:

If you’re going to ban people for questioning the moderation of this board, then also ban people who call others a C on the same thread.

To be honest, a simple acknowledgment that banning me for questioning your moderation whilst letting another user call people a C was unfair and misjudged would be enough to put this all to bed.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:37 pm

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:14 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:25 pm 77 is right there in the screenshot Admin posted.

Also 'Esteban' posted over 600 times from the same IP you registered with. User also had a tendency for indignant behavior.

Back on topic- what are your proposals to improve moderation?

Still proves nothing. IP address is not confirmation of identity.


My suggestion for improving the moderation of the board is simple:

If you’re going to ban people for questioning the moderation of this board, then also ban people who call others a C on the same thread.

To be honest, a simple acknowledgment that banning me for questioning your moderation whilst letting another user call people a C was unfair and misjudged would be enough to put this all to bed.

Having reviewed the evidence, I am satisfied that you were behind the Esteban username.

Considering the context of that thread, banning someone for calling you a fanny would have been very harsh.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:06 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:03 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:59 am The only complaint from me is PW slightly weird power trips that happen on genuine threads. Like the crypto ones and my one about orient having a black manager. And me being called all sorts of names with no repercussions.

Saying that, I don’t lose sleep over it. It’s not that important.

Crypto- hugely damaging to the environment FACT. Irresponsible to encourage others to invest in magic beans.

Your thread about our 'first black manager' was needlessly provocative because you named boarders as racists for no reason. Spoilt an otherwise good thread.

As I say, weird.


If you could point me at where I said anyone was racist on that thread it would be much appreciated.

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:09 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:07 pm Is Huxley Lucky 7 too?

Lucky7 is Solomon but the moderators won’t go to the trouble of “proving” that because Solomon has never started a row on a thread with a sensitive topic.

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:13 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:37 pm

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:14 pm

Still proves nothing. IP address is not confirmation of identity.


My suggestion for improving the moderation of the board is simple:

If you’re going to ban people for questioning the moderation of this board, then also ban people who call others a C on the same thread.

To be honest, a simple acknowledgment that banning me for questioning your moderation whilst letting another user call people a C was unfair and misjudged would be enough to put this all to bed.

Having reviewed the evidence, I am satisfied that you were behind the Esteban username.

Considering the context of that thread, banning someone for calling you a fanny would have been very harsh.

So you are happy with a slang term for a vagina to be used as a slur on this board.

Not only is this a safe space for all lives matter bigots but also one for misogynists.

Really bad look when you consider what’s going on in London at the moment