Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:56 am

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:48 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:42 pm Podcast ladz need to ask him which boarders he likes and doesn't

Seeing as he got pissed off at one of my posts, I reckon I’m a Nigel favourite

Have you been messaged? If not don’t worry, you don’t register with them.

How long does the chat with Nigel go on for? I listened to a good 15 minutes then saw the orange bar at the bottom had barely moved across so gave up.

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:27 pm Oh podcast guys good show really enjoyed it, thank you to Travis for putting yourself out once more and hopefully a few more knuckle draggers will finally get what you are trying to do.

Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:36 pm Can’t say I enjoyed that podcast.

Having a pop at people on message boards because they have a different opinion to you seems rather petty.

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:55 pm

o-no wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:26 pm

Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:39 pm

This is how committees work. Each person will bring their own personal expertise and viewpoint. The expertise Ling brings is is knowledge of football in general and players in particular. He will the the one recommending names, in and out.

The rest of the committee will question, in a positive way, and correctly so, the whys and wherefores of his views and in the case of the existing squad maybe throwin some names of their own.

But as DoF Ling is the expert, prepared to explain his views, be challenged. But ultimately unless the committee can come up with good reason, Ling’s expertise will carry the day.

Is Ling an expert though?

Just because you've been doing something a long time doesn't mean you're any good at it.

I don't know him, and have no personal beef with him, but his record is average at best. Even as O's manager you could make a case that it was Dean Smith who was doing the heavy lifting based on their subsequent careers.

He's done a stellar job of convincing the owners that he is some sort of footballing oracle, but I'm not convinced. He knows he's onto a good thing with owners based overseas, but there's nothing there to suggest he has the ability to match our owners ambition.

I don’t think the owners see him as an oracle. They rely on his expertise as they a) don’t have a footballing background / connections themselves and b) live in America.

If the owners weren’t happy with him, he wouldn’t still be here. Yeah he may end up not being able to take us to where the owners want to be, and his time may come to an end as a result, but so far he’s hired arguably our best manager ever, his signings have been more good than bad and we’ve improved our league position each year.

He hasn’t got everything right but I don’t see how you can argue with the value he’s brought to the club as dof

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:56 am

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:48 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:42 pm Podcast ladz need to ask him which boarders he likes and doesn't

Seeing as he got pissed off at one of my posts, I reckon I’m a Nigel favourite

Have you been messaged? If not don’t worry, you don’t register with them.

How long does the chat with Nigel go on for? I listened to a good 15 minutes then saw the orange bar at the bottom had barely moved across so gave up.

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:09 am This message board is now mostly just a place for those who want to run down LOFC and attack various players, management and owners.

I have had enough of it and am opting out of this MB for good. I suggest Nigel Travis does as well. There is nothing for him to learn on here except who are the boarders who revel in slagging off specific targets. Pathetic.

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:09 am This message board is now mostly just a place for those who want to run down LOFC and attack various players, management and owners.

I have had enough of it and am opting out of this MB for good. I suggest Nigel Travis does as well. There is nothing for him to learn on here except who are the boarders who revel in slagging off specific targets. Pathetic.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:01 pm

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:09 am This message board is now mostly just a place for those who want to run down LOFC and attack various players, management and owners.

I have had enough of it and am opting out of this MB for good. I suggest Nigel Travis does as well. There is nothing for him to learn on here except who are the boarders who revel in slagging off specific targets. Pathetic.

Dont let them win.

DuvB wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:09 am This message board is now mostly just a place for those who want to run down LOFC and attack various players, management and owners.

I have had enough of it and am opting out of this MB for good. I suggest Nigel Travis does as well. There is nothing for him to learn on here except who are the boarders who revel in slagging off specific targets. Pathetic.

Still wrong wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:35 pm Couldn’t imagine it was like this under Barry.
He gave the manager a budget and if he cocked it up he sacked him.
All very simple.
What is the point of having a “ expert” if you are going to question everything.