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Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:14 am
by Byways1
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:03 am
Byways 1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:46 am
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:45 am
Saturday will be a good test. The panel on the Orient Hour are expecting 352 again on Saturday despite 433/442 being so successful on Tuesday. That being so it’s one of JMD/Dennis/Brophy to start.
You said in your opening line “ he’s learning fast”
If he goes back to a failed system then he is not.
@Byways1 .... Agree with you there.
Ross has a long way to go yet before he convinces me that he is a good LONG TERM choice to be the Os next manager.
We do not know the full story of what happened in the half time talk on Tuesday, I think there was more to it than Ross just having a miracle
10 minute miraculous transformation and thus changing into a fiery ''Ferguson'' like figure of a Football Manager !
This Sid was so predictable before the kick off.
When I heard the line up I stated on this board “this has got disaster written all over it and he will change to 4 4 2 for the second half when we are 2-O down”
He should have made the change after Macclesfield and the “unlucky draw” against a very weak Stevenage side would have been a resounding win.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:28 am
by Lucky7
Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:14 am
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:03 am
Byways 1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:46 am
You said in your opening line “ he’s learning fast”
If he goes back to a failed system then he is not.
@Byways1 .... Agree with you there.
Ross has a long way to go yet before he convinces me that he is a good LONG TERM choice to be the Os next manager.
We do not know the full story of what happened in the half time talk on Tuesday, I think there was more to it than Ross just having a miracle
10 minute miraculous transformation and thus changing into a fiery ''Ferguson'' like figure of a Football Manager !
This Sid was so predictable before the kick off.
When I heard the line up I stated on this board “this has got disaster written all over it and he will change to 4 4 2 for the second half when we are 2-O down”
He should have made the change after Macclesfield and the “unlucky draw” against a very weak Stevenage side would have been a resounding win.
Jeez how many more times
It was 4 3 3 Stevie Wonder
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:38 am
by Byways1
Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:28 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:14 am
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:03 am
@Byways1 .... Agree with you there.
Ross has a long way to go yet before he convinces me that he is a good LONG TERM choice to be the Os next manager.
We do not know the full story of what happened in the half time talk on Tuesday, I think there was more to it than Ross just having a miracle
10 minute miraculous transformation and thus changing into a fiery ''Ferguson'' like figure of a Football Manager !
This Sid was so predictable before the kick off.
When I heard the line up I stated on this board “this has got disaster written all over it and he will change to 4 4 2 for the second half when we are 2-O down”
He should have made the change after Macclesfield and the “unlucky draw” against a very weak Stevenage side would have been a resounding win.
Jeez how many more times
It was 4 3 3 Stevie Wonder
Stop being an idiot.
He played 4 at the back and this could be 4 4 2 or 4 3 3 or even 4 2 4.
They don’t just stay in this formation.
The important thing is he plAyed a flat back four which everybody bought into and the result was a total turnaround.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:49 am
by Lucky7
Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:38 am
Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:28 am
Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:14 am
This Sid was so predictable before the kick off.
When I heard the line up I stated on this board “this has got disaster written all over it and he will change to 4 4 2 for the second half when we are 2-O down”
He should have made the change after Macclesfield and the “unlucky draw” against a very weak Stevenage side would have been a resounding win.
Jeez how many more times
It was 4 3 3 Stevie Wonder
Stop being an idiot.
He played 4 at the back and this could be 4 4 2 or 4 3 3 or even 4 2 4.
They don’t just stay in this formation.
The important thing is he plAyed a flat back four which everybody bought into and the result was a total turnaround.
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But the fact is it was 4 3 3
And they don’t stay in that formation?
Comedy gold so early in the morning
Thanks
Idiot
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:58 am
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
According to orient hour it was 442 when defending and 433 when attacking
Formations often change during the game from attack and defence. 532 to 352 for example
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:06 am
by DuvB
He should have made the change after Macclesfield and the “unlucky draw” against a very weak Stevenage side would have been a resounding win.
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With a team that parked a bus in front of goal, thats easier said than done.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:06 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Whatever formation it was second half, we should start with that on Saturday because it clearly worked for us.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:11 am
by DuvB
Changing formation during a game whether (at half time or not) can put the opposition on the back foot and alter the balance of the match.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:13 am
by Lucky7
DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:11 am
Changing formation during a game whether (at half time or not) can put the opposition on the back foot and alter the balance of the match.
It can also put the opposing team on the front foot law of averages
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:14 am
by Sid Bishop
Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:14 am
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:03 am
Byways 1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:46 am
You said in your opening line “ he’s learning fast”
If he goes back to a failed system then he is not.
@Byways1 .... Agree with you there.
Ross has a long way to go yet before he convinces me that he is a good LONG TERM choice to be the Os next manager.
We do not know the full story of what happened in the half time talk on Tuesday, I think there was more to it than Ross just having a miracle
10 minute miraculous transformation and thus changing into a fiery ''Ferguson'' like figure of a Football Manager !
This Sid was so predictable before the kick off.
When I heard the line up I stated on this board “this has got disaster written all over it and he will change to 4 4 2 for the second half when we are 2-O down”
He should have made the change after Macclesfield and the “unlucky draw” against a very weak Stevenage side would have been a resounding win.
As I wrote to @dOh Nut, after being 2-0 down at half time, little option left other than to change things around and go on the attack, nothing ''Genius'' about doing that, any football manager worth his salt would have done the same, regardless of what level of football it was. Now the clever manager is the one who is able to inspire his team week after week, show strong leadership and to have a few different ways of setting up the team according to what team you are playing and who you have at you disposal player wise. The court is still out as to if Ross has those qualities, if proven over around 3 months, then yes, he will have earned the job,
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:45 am
by Clive Evans
No: We should form a panel of the twelve most prolific boarders, they could use their footballing skills and nous to pick the team every week and decide on tactics. Faith should be the 13th man and tell us when to bring on " fresh legs ". A certain formula for success
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:10 am
by RientO
West Side Story wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:45 am
No: We should form a panel of the twelve most prolific boarders, they could use their footballing skills and nous to pick the team every week and decide on tactics. Faith should be the 13th man and tell us when to bring on " fresh legs ". A certain formula for success
I am 14th, but with all the aliases and bans, may just sneak into the top 12. Suspect I would end up being like Davis (Henry Fonda).
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:35 am
by OyinbO
we see this fickle, reactive yo-yo-ing between extreme and polarised nonsense positions amongst fellow football fans all the time. After making democracy more direct and open to ordinary punters, it's hardly surprising we ended up with Johnson & Corbyn, is it?
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:00 am
by RientO
OyinbO wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:35 am
... it's hardly surprising we ended up with Johnson & Corbyn, is it?
It is surprising because hardly anyone voted for either. They were selected by their party members, and in Corbyn's case , £3 registered supporters.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:21 am
by Sid Bishop
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:00 am
OyinbO wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:35 am
... it's hardly surprising we ended up with Johnson & Corbyn, is it?
It is surprising because hardly anyone voted for either. They were selected by their party members, and in Corbyn's case , £3 registered supporters.
In the case of Corbyns ''£3 registered supporters'' remember the the story of the ''Trojan Horse'' !
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:44 pm
by OyinbO
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:00 am
OyinbO wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:35 am
... it's hardly surprising we ended up with Johnson & Corbyn, is it?
It is surprising because hardly anyone voted for either. They were selected by their party members, and in Corbyn's case , £3 registered supporters.
Yeah - when the only qualification for decision making is how engaged you are, this is the outcome. Asking people who care the most to be the ones to decide on the outcomes produces situations like this... "SACK HIM IMMEDIATELY" "GET BEHIND HIM, YOU TRAITOR" etc
How I yearn for the return of the bloodless, technocratic elite. I recant!
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:23 pm
by Omygawd
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:45 am
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:29 pm
Still too early in my opinion , yes Tuesday was brilliant but lets have a few more games to see how it goes
Totally agree, one swallow doesn’t make a summer.
9th June 1993. It made mine.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:28 pm
by RientO
Omygawd wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:23 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:45 am
BIGRON wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:29 pm
Still too early in my opinion , yes Tuesday was brilliant but lets have a few more games to see how it goes
Totally agree, one swallow doesn’t make a summer.
9th June 1993. It made mine.
And his
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:30 pm
by Omygawd
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:28 pm
Omygawd wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:23 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:45 am
Totally agree, one swallow doesn’t make a summer.
9th June 1993. It made mine.
And his
Homophobic, reported.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:52 pm
by RientO
Omygawd wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:30 pm
RientO wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:28 pm
Omygawd wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:23 pm
9th June 1993. It made mine.
And his
Homophobic, reported.
Not if you are a girl.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:05 pm
by PoundhillO
Not going by today’s diabolical display at home !,
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:19 pm
by LeytonOstone
The answer at present is no.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:20 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
We were top at 4:20. Let down badly by some poo poo defending.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:28 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Judd for Ling was ok but Alabi instead of Harrold was a poor decision by Ross. Hopefully he’s learned something today.
Re: Has Ross earned the job
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:02 pm
by CreamofSumYungGai
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:28 pm
Judd for Ling was ok but Alabi instead of Harrold was a poor decision by Ross. Hopefully he’s learned something today.
Agreed, we have to accept Alabi is a waste of time. We had been playing some great stuff but that all went to pot with Alabi.
Bringing on Gorman didn’t help either. Clay had been superb, no way should he have been replaced. Wright and Gorman didn’t win a ball between them. Then to top it off Dale sticks a late one on Morris, wasting time arguing with the ref over it as he was rightly booked.
It’s difficult to blame Ross for the lack of squad depth but questions need to be asked if this new kid from Spurs is worse than Gorman.
