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Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:54 pm I'm not convinced there wasn't a time when the Western media were bigging up the offensive when in reality it wasn't going well. In fact I'm sure I read propaganda at the time that said exactly that.

If there is to be a conventional war with the Evil Empire and the Goodies at NATO. Somebody needs to leg it down to Port Talbot and turn the blast furnaces back on.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:59 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:54 pm I'm not convinced there wasn't a time when the Western media were bigging up the offensive when in reality it wasn't going well. In fact I'm sure I read propaganda at the time that said exactly that.

If there is to be a conventional war with the Evil Empire and the Goodies at NATO. Somebody needs to leg it down to Port Talbot and turn the blast furnaces back on.

I genuinely do not recall that. I do recall there being a lot of (misplaced) optimism in the media before the offensive got started, which you may be conflating with. But there were also plenty of people warning that, once on the offensive, Ukraine would experience the same numerical deficiency that Russia had initially at the start of the invasion (you need a minimum of 3 attacking troops for every 1 defender).

Plus, the Russian defensive positions are seriously tough.