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Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:13 pm**

Legend wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:09 pm Cos Prately is really a game changer ffs

He’s not but Sanders was woeful and had to be replaced.

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:16 pm**

Interestingly Ageyi and Piggot are playing in a 2 and pratley looks like he’s on the left. Already look a bit more dangerous

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:19 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:09 pm
DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:52 pm We just have zero goal threat. Nothing.

Forde out muscled. Isolated.

Midfield no creativity.

I just can’t see where a goal will come from.

What’s really concerning is Chesterfield are not good, but we are worse.
With Agyei on the way back to full fitness maybe we should forget about a striker and bring in two wingers instead . If we can’t create any chances we’re not going to score

Who gets the ball to the wingers ?

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:20 pm**

Beradogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:12 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:06 pm
DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:52 pm We just have zero goal threat. Nothing.

Forde out muscled. Isolated.

Midfield no creativity.

I just can’t see where a goal will come from.

What’s really concerning is Chesterfield are not good, but we are worse.
Last season Moncur meant we had someone from midfield who could carry the ball into the final 3rd. Smyth meant we had someone who could stretch defences. The former making himself unavailable by being unable to get fit and the latter leaving has meant we are missing two key players for the system Wellens plays.

Wellens is partly accountable for the fact we have so many central midfielders, almost none of whom can attack, but the injuries have been horrendous.
The injuries haven’t been horrendous. No more injuries than just about every other team will get in a season.

Losing our main two wide signings in a system based on wingers is sh*t luck. And nearly everyone has been out injured at some point, which makes consistency a real issue.

I think Sanders might work out as a decent signing but in hindsight he was an unnecessary one. We have loads of depth in that position but barely any up top.

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:22 pm**

Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:19 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:09 pm
DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:52 pm We just have zero goal threat. Nothing.

Forde out muscled. Isolated.

Midfield no creativity.

I just can’t see where a goal will come from.

What’s really concerning is Chesterfield are not good, but we are worse.
With Agyei on the way back to full fitness maybe we should forget about a striker and bring in two wingers instead . If we can’t create any chances we’re not going to score
Who gets the ball to the wingers ?

The same players who were getting the ball to Graham

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:26 pm**

George coming on

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:26 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:22 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:19 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:09 pm

With Agyei on the way back to full fitness maybe we should forget about a striker and bring in two wingers instead . If we can’t create any chances we’re not going to score
Who gets the ball to the wingers ?
The same players who were getting the ball to Graham

So what wingers we getting better than Graham .
Where is the money coming from ?

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:27 pm**

Theo & Idris off

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:27 pm**

Dunno what’s happened to him this year but Hunt is dogshit. Can’t pass and can’t defend for sh*t

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:28 pm**

We could carry on playing until Monday and we won’t score

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:29 pm**

Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:26 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:22 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:19 pm

Who gets the ball to the wingers ?
The same players who were getting the ball to Graham
So what wingers we getting better than Graham .
Where is the money coming from ?

They don't need to be better but being good enough will do . As for the money that's down to the clubs board .

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:31 pm**

Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:27 pm Theo & Idris off

Two of our best players . Looks like we're on our way out of the cup . Sounds like we're getting what we deserve .

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:35 pm**

As soon as a team gets one up, we are in big trouble as we just don't score very often

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:35 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:29 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:26 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:22 pm

The same players who were getting the ball to Graham
So what wingers we getting better than Graham .
Where is the money coming from ?
They don't need to be better but being good enough will do . As for the money that's down to the clubs board .

2 5hit players who won't be upto it for cheap?
The proper money Is spent.
Have you not heard of FFP ?

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:36 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:31 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:27 pm Theo & Idris off
Two of our best players . Looks like we're on our way out of the cup . Sounds like we're getting what we deserve .

They've both been awful like Ruel

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:36 pm**

Sounds as though we can't be bothered, didn't want to turn up. RW doesn't seem to be as inspirational as he was - there's no heart in the O's.

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:37 pm**

is it time to say " We're Doomed ", again !

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:38 pm**

Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:35 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:29 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:26 pm

So what wingers we getting better than Graham .
Where is the money coming from ?
They don't need to be better but being good enough will do . As for the money that's down to the clubs board .
2 5hit players who won't be upto it for cheap?
The proper money Is spent.
Have you not heard of FFP ?

Where have I said we should sign sh*t players and of course I've heard of FFP .

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:41 pm**

Not that I like the way that handballs are called these days, but had this game had VAR, we would have got at least one penalty. Two pretty big shouts.

Not that we deserve it mind.

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:42 pm**

The thing is and It has always been my main negative on Wellens is a lack of a plan b, every team gets injuries, suspensions, it's how you cope with them

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:42 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:38 pm
Joe315 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:35 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:29 pm

They don't need to be better but being good enough will do . As for the money that's down to the clubs board .
2 5hit players who won't be upto it for cheap?
The proper money Is spent.
Have you not heard of FFP ?
Where have I said we should sign sh*t players and of course I've heard of FFP .

Graham Is arguably our highest earner.
2 players on contracts close to Graham will be 300-400 k a season.

Where is that coming from ?

Especially with ffp

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:51 pm**

Only one shot on target according to Beeb match stats.

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:52 pm**

Agyei done ok. Looks promising

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:54 pm**

We are awful

Posted: **Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:56 pm**

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:54 pm We are awful

Yeah, we’ve been bad. Again

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