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Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:59 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
The Reverend wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:58 pm
Skip wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:55 pm Heat of the moment stuff but Wellens better apologize for his actions there yelling at the fans to get off the pitch so the game can continue. Awful.
Wellens standing in front of the Justin Edinburgh stand of all places trying to get a game to continue whilst an Orient fan is receiving CPR in the East stand and supporters are pleading with officials to stop the match is a seriously bad look.
Gotta assume Wellens didn’t know the fans were doing it for that reason though?

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:03 pm
by The Reverend
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:59 pm
The Reverend wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:58 pm
Skip wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:55 pm Heat of the moment stuff but Wellens better apologize for his actions there yelling at the fans to get off the pitch so the game can continue. Awful.
Wellens standing in front of the Justin Edinburgh stand of all places trying to get a game to continue whilst an Orient fan is receiving CPR in the East stand and supporters are pleading with officials to stop the match is a seriously bad look.
Gotta assume Wellens didn’t know the fans were doing it for that reason though?
Almost certainly he didn’t, but it really doesn’t look good.

As for the boarder on here saying that as long as it doesn’t impact the pitch the game should go on, I will assume this is said in ignorance of how bleak witnessing someone receive CPR actually is. It’s 1,000 times worse with a football match going on at the same time.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:05 pm
by DrWindy
Why haven’t they been taken to hospital by ambulance? I g t the delay but what is going on?

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:05 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Neptune's Spear wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:01 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:57 pm
Neptune's Spear wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:56 pm If would be terrible if this happened at Loftus Road
Eh?
He'd be having CPR at QPR
Great joke. Maybe try making just one, like a single one, of your posts not sound like you are a complete bonehead.
Wrongun

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:07 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
The Reverend wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:03 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:59 pm
The Reverend wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:58 pm

Wellens standing in front of the Justin Edinburgh stand of all places trying to get a game to continue whilst an Orient fan is receiving CPR in the East stand and supporters are pleading with officials to stop the match is a seriously bad look.
Gotta assume Wellens didn’t know the fans were doing it for that reason though?
Almost certainly he didn’t, but it really doesn’t look good.

As for the boarder on here saying that as long as it doesn’t impact the pitch the game should go on, I will assume this is said in ignorance of how bleak witnessing someone receive CPR actually is. It’s 1,000 times worse with a football match going on at the same time.
So, assuming he almost certainly didn’t why isn’t it a good look? If he thought it was fans just protesting something then why wouldn’t he tell them to get off?

Richie is an honest bloke and I’m sure he’ll apologise if he feels it’s necessary.

Why are we trying to make a bad situation even worse?

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:08 pm
by Mistadobalina
To be fair to wellens and Terry, they'd have had no clue what's going on. Hard to judge someone in the heat of the moment when a games going on and they're not informed.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:09 pm
by Mistadobalina
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:07 pm
The Reverend wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:03 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:59 pm
Gotta assume Wellens didn’t know the fans were doing it for that reason though?
Almost certainly he didn’t, but it really doesn’t look good.

As for the boarder on here saying that as long as it doesn’t impact the pitch the game should go on, I will assume this is said in ignorance of how bleak witnessing someone receive CPR actually is. It’s 1,000 times worse with a football match going on at the same time.
So, assuming he almost certainly didn’t why isn’t it a good look? If he thought it was fans just protesting something then why wouldn’t he tell them to get off?

Richie is an honest bloke and I’m sure he’ll apologise if he feels it’s necessary.

Why are we trying to make a bad situation even worse?
Completely agree. Sh*t dig in a horrible moment. Like all of us he'll be mortified.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:09 pm
by Skip
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:59 pm
The Reverend wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:58 pm
Skip wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:55 pm Heat of the moment stuff but Wellens better apologize for his actions there yelling at the fans to get off the pitch so the game can continue. Awful.
Wellens standing in front of the Justin Edinburgh stand of all places trying to get a game to continue whilst an Orient fan is receiving CPR in the East stand and supporters are pleading with officials to stop the match is a seriously bad look.
Gotta assume Wellens didn’t know the fans were doing it for that reason though?
I'd be stunned if he didnt. It was pretty obvious. The game had already been halted for a short period before that. It was when the ref restarted it that the unrest with the crowd escalated.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:10 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
I’m not there but is there any chance this continues? Are fans still in the stands? Has the poor person got a bloody ambulance yet?

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:10 pm
by Skip
Mistadobalina wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:09 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:07 pm
The Reverend wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:03 pm

Almost certainly he didn’t, but it really doesn’t look good.

As for the boarder on here saying that as long as it doesn’t impact the pitch the game should go on, I will assume this is said in ignorance of how bleak witnessing someone receive CPR actually is. It’s 1,000 times worse with a football match going on at the same time.
So, assuming he almost certainly didn’t why isn’t it a good look? If he thought it was fans just protesting something then why wouldn’t he tell them to get off?

Richie is an honest bloke and I’m sure he’ll apologise if he feels it’s necessary.

Why are we trying to make a bad situation even worse?
Completely agree. Sh*t dig in a horrible moment. Like all of us he'll be mortified.
Not a dig at all, things happen in the heat of the moment. He was very in the wrong though with how he handled it.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:13 pm
by Skip
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:10 pm I’m not there but is there any chance this continues? Are fans still in the stands? Has the poor person got a bloody ambulance yet?
Stadium well less than half full now. Ambulance seems to be outside. Not quite clear to see why they aren't moving towards it.

Tannoy gave an update about ten mins ago saying they'll look to restart the game. Doesn't really feel like the right thing to do honestly but I get logistically it might have to be done.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:16 pm
by Mistadobalina
Skip wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:10 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:09 pm
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:07 pm

So, assuming he almost certainly didn’t why isn’t it a good look? If he thought it was fans just protesting something then why wouldn’t he tell them to get off?

Richie is an honest bloke and I’m sure he’ll apologise if he feels it’s necessary.

Why are we trying to make a bad situation even worse?
Completely agree. Sh*t dig in a horrible moment. Like all of us he'll be mortified.
Not a dig at all, things happen in the heat of the moment. He was very in the wrong though with how he handled it.
They only brought the fan to the side of the pitch just as they tried to restart. Have to assume this happens at other grounds and their protocol is to treat away from the pitch. It seems really weird that this is how it has to be handled, both from the perspective of the person who's being treated and allowing the game to finish.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:18 pm
by Long slender neck
Well done the invaders for stopping the game and shame on anyone jeering them.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:20 pm
by PoundhillO
Long slender neck wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:18 pm Well done the invaders for stopping the game and shame on anyone jeering them.
Absolutely

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:21 pm
by JimbO
Was at the game peope were jeering the officials no one else

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:23 pm
by gshaw
JimbO wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:21 pm Was at the game peope were jeering the officials no one else
The protocol definitely needs to be reviewed, soon as the senior Steward or whoever knows there's a serious incident stop the game. The health and welfare of all nearby is more important.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:24 pm
by Skip
Think games is off.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:25 pm
by Skip
Just announced over tannoy. Officially off.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:26 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Game abandoned . Assume it will be replayed in full now?

https://x.com/leytonorientfc/status/170 ... 02734?s=20

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:27 pm
by Mr. Peanutbutter
Right decision, hopefully the fun can pull through. Football is absolutely immaterial in a situation like this.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:28 pm
by Omygawd
Thoughts totally with the person concerned and their family and friends.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:28 pm
by Mistadobalina
gshaw wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:23 pm
JimbO wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:21 pm Was at the game peope were jeering the officials no one else
The protocol definitely needs to be reviewed, soon as the senior Steward or whoever knows there's a serious incident stop the game. The health and welfare of all nearby is more important.
EFL guidance is for games to continue in those situations and let the clubs emergency response plans be carried out. Something went seriously wrong in how that was handled but it's hard to blame the ref or playing staff, these situations are thankfully incredibly rare and difficult to deal with.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:30 pm
by Omygawd
BBC reporting game abandoned due to crowd trouble. What a shower of Sh*t the BBC is.

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:35 pm
by Tuffers#2
DrWindy wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:05 pm Why haven’t they been taken to hospital by ambulance? I g t the delay but what is going on?
If there are signs of life you would work on them until stable enough to move. Similar to christian erikson

Re: Exiles Thread.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:36 pm
by Tuffers#2
Omygawd wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:30 pm BBC reporting game abandoned due to crowd trouble. What a shower of Sh*t the BBC is.
says crowd, not trouble.