Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Qin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:00 am Richie wants to play a 4-2-3-1 system. In that system, Jack Turner would be one of the 2, with Clay probably, or maybe Pratley

Bergen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:16 am Young loanees – last ten years

Ryan Brunt (Stoke City - on a six months loan in July 2012)
Scott Wagstaff (Charlton - on a one month loan in Oct. 2012)
Alex Smith (Fulham - on a two months loan in Nov. 2012)
Ade Azeez (Charlton - one month loan in Jan. 2013)

Jayden Stockley (Bournemouth - on a three months loan in Sept. 2013)
Frankie Sutherland (QPR - on a one month loan in Oct. 2013)
Jamie Ness (Stoke City - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Shaquile Coulthirst (Tottenham - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Jamar Loza (Norwich City - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Michael Pettrasso (QPR - on a one month loan Sept. 2014)
Jack Price (Wolves - on a three months loan in Oct. 2014)
John Lundstram (Everton - on a one month loan in Jan. 2015)
Ryan Hedges (Swansea - on a one month loan in Jan. 2015)

Joe Maguire (Liverpool - on a one month loan in Aug. 2015)
Adam Chicksen (Brighton - on a one month loan in Oct. 2015)
Cole Kpekawa (QPR - on a three months loan in Nov. 2015)
Calaum Jahraldo-Martin (Hull City - on a four-months in Jan. 2016)
Jerome Binnom-Williams (Crystal Palace - on a four-months loan in Jan. 2016)
David Gregory (Crystal Palace - on a three-months loan in Mar. 2016)

Harry Cornick (Bournemouth - on a five-months loan in July 2016)
Jordan Green (Bournemouth - on a four-months loan in Jan. 2017)

Zain Westbrooke (Brentford - on a three months loan in Oct. 2017)
Ebou Adams (Norwich - on a five months loan in Jan. 2018)

Levi Lumeka (Crystal Palace - on a season long loan in Aug. 2018)

George Marsh (Tottenham - on a four months loan in Aug. 2019)
Kazaiah Sterling (Tottenham - on a four months loan in Jan. 2020)

Jordan Thomas (Norwich City - on a season-long loan in Sept. 2020)
Olatunji Akinola (West Ham United - on a season-long loan in Oct. 2020)

Tyrese Omotoye (Norwich City - on a season-long loan in Aug. 2021)
Alex Mitchell (Millwall - on a season-long loan in Aug. 2021)
Dan Moss (Millwall - on a five months loan in Jan. 2022)

Some of them have done pretty well, but the list shows it has always been a bit of gamble to sign untested youngsters on loan.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:10 am as it happens Spence was 2008 ish

Bergen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:19 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:10 am as it happens Spence was 2008 ish

Omozusi never played for us as a loanee.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:07 am

Bergen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:16 am Young loanees – last ten years

Ryan Brunt (Stoke City - on a six months loan in July 2012)
Scott Wagstaff (Charlton - on a one month loan in Oct. 2012)
Alex Smith (Fulham - on a two months loan in Nov. 2012)
Ade Azeez (Charlton - one month loan in Jan. 2013)

Jayden Stockley (Bournemouth - on a three months loan in Sept. 2013)
Frankie Sutherland (QPR - on a one month loan in Oct. 2013)
Jamie Ness (Stoke City - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Shaquile Coulthirst (Tottenham - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Jamar Loza (Norwich City - on a one month loan in Jan. 2014)
Michael Pettrasso (QPR - on a one month loan Sept. 2014)
Jack Price (Wolves - on a three months loan in Oct. 2014)
John Lundstram (Everton - on a one month loan in Jan. 2015)
Ryan Hedges (Swansea - on a one month loan in Jan. 2015)

Joe Maguire (Liverpool - on a one month loan in Aug. 2015)
Adam Chicksen (Brighton - on a one month loan in Oct. 2015)
Cole Kpekawa (QPR - on a three months loan in Nov. 2015)
Calaum Jahraldo-Martin (Hull City - on a four-months in Jan. 2016)
Jerome Binnom-Williams (Crystal Palace - on a four-months loan in Jan. 2016)
David Gregory (Crystal Palace - on a three-months loan in Mar. 2016)

Harry Cornick (Bournemouth - on a five-months loan in July 2016)
Jordan Green (Bournemouth - on a four-months loan in Jan. 2017)

Zain Westbrooke (Brentford - on a three months loan in Oct. 2017)
Ebou Adams (Norwich - on a five months loan in Jan. 2018)

Levi Lumeka (Crystal Palace - on a season long loan in Aug. 2018)

George Marsh (Tottenham - on a four months loan in Aug. 2019)
Kazaiah Sterling (Tottenham - on a four months loan in Jan. 2020)

Jordan Thomas (Norwich City - on a season-long loan in Sept. 2020)
Olatunji Akinola (West Ham United - on a season-long loan in Oct. 2020)

Tyrese Omotoye (Norwich City - on a season-long loan in Aug. 2021)
Alex Mitchell (Millwall - on a season-long loan in Aug. 2021)
Dan Moss (Millwall - on a five months loan in Jan. 2022)

Some of them have done pretty well, but the list shows it has always been a bit of gamble to sign untested youngsters on loan.

you forgot Omozusi , & the young Wet Spam kid who was a CH & Played a few games for us

Lifelongfan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:18 am Southampton midfielder is joining on loan. He was at the Open day yesterday & was kitted out when the team had photos taken

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:41 am

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:37 am I'm trying to paint a picture as to the exact role Turner is going to play.

He has to be the deep lying midfielder out of the 3, the role Hector was playing under Wellens. His job in offence is to collect the ball from the back 4 and link play.

It’s a crucial role when you want to play out from the back as Richie does.

y o y o y wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:56 pm

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:41 am

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:37 am I'm trying to paint a picture as to the exact role Turner is going to play.

He has to be the deep lying midfielder out of the 3, the role Hector was playing under Wellens. His job in offence is to collect the ball from the back 4 and link play.

It’s a crucial role when you want to play out from the back as Richie does.

I see Gary brushed right over you comment Chief

y o y o y wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:56 pm

Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:41 am

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:37 am I'm trying to paint a picture as to the exact role Turner is going to play.

He has to be the deep lying midfielder out of the 3, the role Hector was playing under Wellens. His job in offence is to collect the ball from the back 4 and link play.

It’s a crucial role when you want to play out from the back as Richie does.

I see Gary brushed right over you comment Chief

Story of O wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:28 pm

PutneyO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:21 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:28 am Never heard of him, well done Ling.

Who heard of Harry Kane when he joined us ?

True. the other two lads from Spurs did better for us, but Kane has had the better career

Bergen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:01 pm He must be A or B

BIGRON wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:07 pm

Bergen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:01 pm He must be A or B

He's A

BIGRON wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:56 pm I don't class myself as an expert but I wasn't that impressed with him

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:50 pm

BIGRON wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:56 pm I don't class myself as an expert but I wasn't that impressed with him

Yet he could possibly have the most important position in our team . Maybe we should sign another experienced midfielder before the transfer window closes .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:36 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:50 pm

BIGRON wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:56 pm I don't class myself as an expert but I wasn't that impressed with him

Yet he could possibly have the most important position in our team . Maybe we should sign another experienced midfielder before the transfer window closes .

Weve got enough midfielders if this lad joins

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:53 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:36 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:50 pm

Yet he could possibly have the most important position in our team . Maybe we should sign another experienced midfielder before the transfer window closes .

Weve got enough midfielders if this lad joins

Enough CMs in number... only if you count kids with 0 experience
Enough CMs in quality... no

A senior pro CDM would really be a statement of intent, with one of Coleman / Brown heading out the other way (loan perhaps)

Moncur Pratley Clay
Coleman Brown Obieiro Tanga (Young out on loan)
Turner (maybe)

Big gap between the 3 starters and everything else