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Confucius wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:57 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:04 am They changed it to
Tested positive with covid in 28 days .
To define specifically Covid .

Instead of including Covid related .

In other words complications such as sepsis , heart problems, strokes etc
All suffered while no longer being covid positive , but still in comas etc.

Confucius say: ‘Dead is dead. Cannot be called by any other name.’

Confucius should know !
He still manages to post some sh*te on here though

anyone know where i can find the projections data?

Latest actual daily deaths for England (22-26 Oct)

141
134
129
152
154

Are you including the Missing tests in that lot ?

Eh?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:25 am

Confucius wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:57 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:04 am They changed it to
Tested positive with covid in 28 days .
To define specifically Covid .

Instead of including Covid related .

In other words complications such as sepsis , heart problems, strokes etc
All suffered while no longer being covid positive , but still in comas etc.

Confucius say: ‘Dead is dead. Cannot be called by any other name.’

Confucius should know !
He still manages to post some sh*te on here though

You are Confucius.

It’s strange how that alias always posts after you, just saying like.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:04 am They changed it to
Tested positive with covid in 28 days .
To define specifically Covid .

Instead of including Covid related .

In other words complications such as sepsis , heart problems, strokes etc
All suffered while no longer being covid positive , but still in comas etc.

Tuffers you forget being killed in a road traffic accident or any other accident for that case.

Does Boris Johnson work for the Chinese or the Russians ? Because he's doing a much better job at destroying this country than they could possibly do.

Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:42 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:04 am They changed it to
Tested positive with covid in 28 days .
To define specifically Covid .

Instead of including Covid related .

In other words complications such as sepsis , heart problems, strokes etc
All suffered while no longer being covid positive , but still in comas etc.

Tuffers you forget being killed in a road traffic accident or any other accident for that case.

Not within 28 days of testing !

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:36 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:25 am

Confucius wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:57 am

Confucius say: ‘Dead is dead. Cannot be called by any other name.’

Confucius should know !
He still manages to post some sh*te on here though

You are Confucius.

It’s strange how that alias always posts after you, just saying like.

Oh Thory i wouldnt pick him as someone to quote .
Platonism is far more to my liking

Sun Tzu would be of interest too
Always need a fighter .

Only 41st in the number of cases per million but in the teens for survival.

Something amiss here.

5th in the total number of deaths though
U.S
Brazil
India
China
Mexico

Mexico is the smallest population of those
4 & Is double britains population .

Beat everybody else though

How did SAGE come up with 4000 deaths a day?

http://tapnewswire.com/2020/11/where-di ... ths-a-day/

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:24 pm How did SAGE come up with 4000 deaths a day?

http://tapnewswire.com/2020/11/where-di ... ths-a-day/

Interesting listening to David Spiegelhalter on the BBC's Daily Politics today. He said there are a "number of problems" with the graph that showed the 4000 figure and it was not helpful to show it.

Carl Heneghan has said pretty much the same thing: https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/the-innac ... ge-models/

No covid on the tube https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-54793554

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:24 pm How did SAGE come up with 4000 deaths a day?

http://tapnewswire.com/2020/11/where-di ... ths-a-day/

On nick ferrari today they had an expert on who said this is whats happened. The government looked at 486 hospitals as a sample and found only 29 of them had covid patients so they decided to ignore the ones with no patients and then extrapolate the data of the 29 which is what has put us in lockdown. They also went on to say that at its peak 8,452 people died globally on the highest day. Yet the government wants us to believe we will have 4k dead each day. Its nonsense.

What would be an acceptable level of daily deaths? I guess a level not much above excess?

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:35 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:24 pm How did SAGE come up with 4000 deaths a day?

http://tapnewswire.com/2020/11/where-di ... ths-a-day/

On nick ferrari today they had an expert on who said this is whats happened. The government looked at 486 hospitals as a sample and found only 29 of them had covid patients so they decided to ignore the ones with no patients and then extrapolate the data of the 29 which is what has put us in lockdown. They also went on to say that at its peak 8,452 people died globally on the highest day. Yet the government wants us to believe we will have 4k dead each day. Its nonsense.

Didnt they say a million died on the 1st wave of Spanish flu .
Then between 17-100 million ( depending what source you read )
died in further waves .

It is simply that 4,000 cases per day was worst case scenario .
From different projected models .

A good friend of mine works as a toilet attendant ( someone has to do it ) The toilets are owned by the Corperation of London but he's paid through an agency , during the first lockdown his toilets were closed and he was given full pay , this time the Corperation have decided they will not pay wages to agency staff how does he get on for money ? He and his wife live in a private rented flat so can't get council housing benefits , his wife is on full pay with Arsenal FC , he's worried sick he won't be able to pay his rent ( £250 per week ) ☹☹

Nice Uncle Rishi has extended the furlough scheme until end of March...that tells you rather more about a date for return to 'normality' than Johnson bluster about the 2nd of December...

25k cases and 492 new deaths reported today. What should it have been according to the data model?

Regulator criticises data used in lockdown presentation slides.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54831334

Confucius say: ‘Wuhan Flu causing disharmony on all levels. Ruling bureau most pleased.’

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:03 pm 25k cases and 492 new deaths reported today. What should it have been according to the data model?

Which one? I expect deaths to peak at around 900 a day in a couple of weeks.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:40 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:03 pm 25k cases and 492 new deaths reported today. What should it have been according to the data model?

Which one? I expect deaths to peak at around 900 a day in a couple of weeks.

The one they used for the predictions in the slides last Saturday.