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Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:56 am
by Dunners
Trump's victory is worrying. So we may as well make the most of it and have our fun while we can.
Purple hair dye for Lammy?
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:01 am
by Dunners
LOL at the What About Palestine effort. Someone had to do it, I guess.
This analysis may have been credible had turnout been lower. But it increased.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:02 am
by Proposition Joe
Not Lammy unequivocally saying one thing and then reverse ferreting? Shocked, shocked I tell you.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:11 am
by Currywurst and Chips
I’m starting to think basing your entire policy platform and electoral strategy on “vibes” might not be a good idea after all
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:12 am
by EastDerehamO
Love Trump or loathe him, one can never argue with democracy.
Listened to some analysis, consensus seems to be the Democrats had got too out of touch with their traditional working class voters that too many of them voted Republican. The fact Harris and leading Democrats were backing a clearly unfit Biden for a second term until they were found out didn't help them either, just seen as very deceitful.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:14 am
by Mistadobalina
EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:12 am
Love Trump or loathe him, one can never argue with democracy.
If this was intentional irony, fair play.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:15 am
by Don Keybollock
Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:10 am
I hope the 2016 howling-at-the-sky protestor is ready for her comeback.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:15 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:12 am
Love Trump or loathe him, one can never argue with democracy.
Listened to some analysis, consensus seems to be the Democrats had got too out of touch with their traditional working class voters that too many of them voted Republican. The fact Harris and leading Democrats were backing a clearly unfit Biden for a second term until they were found out didn't help them either, just seen as very deceitful.
Both parties/candidates had contempt for the electorate, but the Republicans told people what they want to hear, while the Democrats pretty much did the equivalent of Owen Jones failing to understand why a cabbie would not vote for the party he thinks he should vote for
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:20 am
by Give it to Jabo
Yep, the Trump had the knack of making people feel good about themselves.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:26 am
by The Reverend
I lumped on Trump last week when odds were still quite decent. He’s going to make me £300 profit when the result is confirmed which I’ll put towards next years Orient League 2 season ticket. Cheers Donald.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:34 am
by oxo
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:10 pm
I saw that this morning onTV and thought WTF . What was he thinking? It was a stupid mistake this close to the election However, the problem America has is they are both unhinged. I’m glad I don’t live there.
You seemed extremely keen to see him in the Whitehouse like a week or so ago?
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:38 am
by Celtient
EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:12 am
Love Trump or loathe him, one can never argue with democracy.
Listened to some analysis, consensus seems to be the Democrats had got too out of touch with their traditional working class voters that too many of them voted Republican. The fact Harris and leading Democrats were backing a clearly unfit Biden for a second term until they were found out didn't help them either, just seen as very deceitful.
And you could certainly never accuse Trump of being deceitful
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:49 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
You can. And he is. But the pertinent thing here is that Trump lies (as well as in many other contexts) to tell people what they want to hear, in a context where people are primed to respond well to it.
The Democrats, and the “progressives” “liberals” etc, are seen by many working class/not wealthy Americans as lying to them about their experiences (again, see Owen Jones’s cabbie)
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:51 am
by Hoover Attack
And how could anyone loathe him? The lovable old rogue that he is.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:58 am
by Dunners
Heh.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:04 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Well, we’re living in interesting times, at least
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:07 am
by Proposition Joe
As bad/sad as the news coming out of America is, a quick trawl through the absolute litany of political 'experts' confidently being very, very wrong lifts the spirits somewhat:
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:08 am
by cockhat
The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:26 am
I lumped on Trump last week when odds were still quite decent. He’s going to make me £300 profit when the result is confirmed which I’ll put towards next years Orient League 2 season ticket. Cheers Donald.
That should pay for 25% of it.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:08 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
But the solid admin!
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:09 am
by Proposition Joe
Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:58 am
Heh.
Would genuinely LOL and have increased respect for DT if he replied telling him to f*** off.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:11 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
A cabin in some remote forest feels more and more possible every day
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:12 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Lammy is deeply unserious.
Maybe if you have a career that could conceivably lead to being foreign secretary, it might be worth only saying stuff about people if you are able to stand by it when it matters?
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:13 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:11 am
A cabin in some remote forest feels more and more possible every day
For you? or Lammy?
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:14 am
by Proposition Joe
Hated him since he spread misinformation about a work event I had some involvement with which caused real harm and he ignored pleas to clarify and/or retract. C*nt.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:16 am
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Yeah, I don’t think he was particularly well liked in the charity sector in Tottenham when I was working in it. Though June Sarpong did flirt with me while Lammy was networking, so that was fun.