There seems to be a general pattern: any wrongdoing by a Labour MP is dissected and slated forevermore but even the most outrageous wrongdoings from Tory MPs soon get swept under the carpet (by their party and the media)
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:45 pm
by faldO
E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:05 am
There seems to be a general pattern: any wrongdoing by a Labour MP is dissected and slated forevermore but even the most outrageous wrongdoings from Tory MPs soon get swept under the carpet (by their party and the media)
Jeremy knows it too.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:08 pm
by Dunners
Actually, this is worse for Corbyn than I first thought. He provided Webbe with a character reference. That in itself is not unusual, but they way he did it is unusual.
Usually a character reference is delivered as a statement or in letter after a guilty verdict and at the sentencing stage in an effort to try and influence the Judge towards leniency. That's fair enough.
But in this instance, Corbyn actually attended Webbe's trial and gave evidence prior to any verdict. That means his reference wasn't an attempt for leniency, but an attempt to influence the Court into thinking that Webbe was not guilty. He absolutely has a right to do this of course, but he has done so regardless of any evidence to the contrary.
Obviously the Court has considered all of the evidence. The Chief Magistrate, Paul Goldspring, stated the following regarding Webbe:
"I do not find the defendant to be cogent, compelling and truthful in all aspects of her evidence. Some of the things she has said I believe were made up on the spur of the moment... In short, " find Ms Webbe to be vague, incoherent and at times illogical... and ultimately I find her to be untruthful."
The findings of the Court are damning of Webbe, and are completely at odds with the actions and words of Corbyn. To say that this reflects poorly on his judgement is an understatement. He was prepared to provide a character reference for somebody a court has determined to be untruthful. What is worse, had the Court not seen through Webbe's testimony and 'evidence', Corbyn's testimony may have contributed to a not-guilty verdict, and therefore denied justice to her victim.
And yet there are still some people out there who are trying to deflect any criticism away from Corbyn, and remain sensitive to any suggestion that their messiah is a complete f*ckwit.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:13 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
You're one of the most arrogant fuckw1ts on here that's for sure.
Say we give Corbyn 20 years inside for being a character witness. Will that satisfy you centrist retards?
We'll let the Tory crooks, like Jenrick, Johnson, and Patel go, without a murmur, but we'll continue to hound Corbyn, a decent man.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:24 pm
by Dunners
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:01 pm
by Thor
Whilst we are looking at Labour who really are the nasty party now what with Raynor and Webb look at this little nugget.
The shadow minister for education has no idea about what she’s talking or trying to lecture others on. This of course follows on from her recent foul language and behaviour. These are the best Labour can bring to the people then it’s no wonder the jellyfish has a zero chance of ever getting in power.
I’ll leave the video here for you all to listen and be amazed at how bad Raynor really is as an MP and more importantly as a shadow education minister.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:29 pm
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:08 pm
Actually, this is worse for Corbyn than I first thought. He provided Webbe with a character reference. That in itself is not unusual, but they way he did it is unusual.
Usually a character reference is delivered as a statement or in letter after a guilty verdict and at the sentencing stage in an effort to try and influence the Judge towards leniency. That's fair enough.
But in this instance, Corbyn actually attended Webbe's trial and gave evidence prior to any verdict. That means his reference wasn't an attempt for leniency, but an attempt to influence the Court into thinking that Webbe was not guilty. He absolutely has a right to do this of course, but he has done so regardless of any evidence to the contrary.
Obviously the Court has considered all of the evidence. The Chief Magistrate, Paul Goldspring, stated the following regarding Webbe:
"I do not find the defendant to be cogent, compelling and truthful in all aspects of her evidence. Some of the things she has said I believe were made up on the spur of the moment... In short, " find Ms Webbe to be vague, incoherent and at times illogical... and ultimately I find her to be untruthful."
The findings of the Court are damning of Webbe, and are completely at odds with the actions and words of Corbyn. To say that this reflects poorly on his judgement is an understatement. He was prepared to provide a character reference for somebody a court has determined to be untruthful. What is worse, had the Court not seen through Webbe's testimony and 'evidence', Corbyn's testimony may have contributed to a not-guilty verdict, and therefore denied justice to her victim.
And yet there are still some people out there who are trying to deflect any criticism away from Corbyn, and remain sensitive to any suggestion that their messiah is a complete f*ckwit.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:30 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:05 am
There seems to be a general pattern: any wrongdoing by a Labour MP is dissected and slated forevermore but even the most outrageous wrongdoings from Tory MPs soon get swept under the carpet (by their party and the media)
E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:05 am
There seems to be a general pattern: any wrongdoing by a Labour MP is dissected and slated forevermore but even the most outrageous wrongdoings from Tory MPs soon get swept under the carpet (by their party and the media)
You must have tuffers blocked
173 Pages to 148 pages ,
if you righties were boxers youd be looking out of 1 eye &
have a bloody nose by now !
To be fair, this time COYO's has a point. You do go on, and on, and on, about Jezza.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:04 pm
by BoniO
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:01 pm
Whilst we are looking at Labour who really are the nasty party now what with Raynor and Webb look at this little nugget.
The shadow minister for education has no idea about what she’s talking or trying to lecture others on. This of course follows on from her recent foul language and behaviour. These are the best Labour can bring to the people then it’s no wonder the jellyfish has a zero chance of ever getting in power.
I’ll leave the video here for you all to listen and be amazed at how bad Raynor really is as an MP and more importantly as a shadow education minister.
Labour - the nasty party. So you forgive all the screw-ups, corruption and complete ineptitude of the Tories? I'll be generous and call you a half-wit.
To be fair, this time COYO's has a point. You do go on, and on, and on, about Jezza.
Yet he is still 25 pages behind Tory watch .
Most of which is pictures he doesnt understand .
If a picture paints a thousand words
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 pm
by Thor
Pictures you post tuffers its like your own little thread of steve whatever his name is. No one is posting there just you dear boy.
Now what's your view on Rayner and her ineptitude in talking to Ferrari?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 pm
by Thor
So tuffers what's you View on Webb? Guilty in a court of law going to jail it would seem. No pictures from your mate for her?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:32 pm
by Thor
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:13 pm
You're one of the most arrogant fuckw1ts on here that's for sure.
Say we give Corbyn 20 years inside for being a character witness. Will that satisfy you centrist retards?
We'll let the Tory crooks, like Jenrick, Johnson, and Patel go, without a murmur, but we'll continue to hound Corbyn, a decent man.
I'm not sure anyone has said corbyn isn't a decent man. What people have said is he has many skeletons in his cupboard concerning questionable people and his association with them. Some of his policies were a bit wacko and some the tories have even nicked!! The trouble is coyos he did not and does not resonate with the man in the street. He has been slayed by the press for the lack of action on anti semetism in his party which labour were found guilty of, with the bnp the only other party guilty of such a similar offence.
In todays day and age he can't say what he's said and be accepted as being fair when what Webb has done goes against everything this society is trying to rid itself of.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:46 pm
by tuffers#1
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 pm
Pictures you post tuffers its like your own little thread of steve whatever his name is. No one is posting there just you dear boy.
Now what's your view on Rayner and her ineptitude in talking to Ferrari?
My view is that Bodge Johnners is a fat lying TORY .
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:51 pm
by tuffers#1
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 pm
So tuffers what's you View on Webb? Guilty in a court of law going to jail it would seem. No pictures from your mate for her?
Thor the £ 29 Billion on a unworkable T&T system used by Torys &
138,000 deaths from Covid .
Why would my mate need a picture of a BLACK woman who used some words .
when He is showing the F*cktards they ignore the real Crims by constantly
ignoring TORY CRIMINALS .
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:01 pm
by Give it to Jabo
How Boris is ahead in the polls referring to voting intentions in the next G E is beyond me..
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:16 pm
by Dohnut
E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:05 am
There seems to be a general pattern: any wrongdoing by a Labour MP is dissected and slated forevermore but even the most outrageous wrongdoings from Tory MPs soon get swept under the carpet (by their party and the media)
The BBC stuff is all I have seen. The Cummings story went on forever and still does is so many ways.
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 pm
So tuffers what's you View on Webb? Guilty in a court of law going to jail it would seem. No pictures from your mate for her?
Thor the £ 29 Billion on a unworkable T&T system used by Torys &
138,000 deaths from Covid .
Why would my mate need a picture of a BLACK woman who used some words .
when He is showing the F*cktards they ignore the real Crims by constantly
ignoring TORY CRIMINALS .
Glad you know the numbers. Amazing since this story is ignored.
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:13 pm
You're one of the most arrogant fuckw1ts on here that's for sure.
Say we give Corbyn 20 years inside for being a character witness. Will that satisfy you centrist retards?
We'll let the Tory crooks, like Jenrick, Johnson, and Patel go, without a murmur, but we'll continue to hound Corbyn, a decent man.
I'm not sure anyone has said corbyn isn't a decent man. What people have said is he has many skeletons in his cupboard concerning questionable people and his association with them. Some of his policies were a bit wacko and some the tories have even nicked!! The trouble is coyos he did not and does not resonate with the man in the street. He has been slayed by the press for the lack of action on anti semetism in his party which labour were found guilty of, with the bnp the only other party guilty of such a similar offence.
So much bullshit. Welcome back, Thorgey.
It’s incredible that a peaceful, life-long anti-racist has been portrayed as a dangerous racist and people have bought it. We truly are thick as sh*t.
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:13 pm
You're one of the most arrogant fuckw1ts on here that's for sure.
Say we give Corbyn 20 years inside for being a character witness. Will that satisfy you centrist retards?
We'll let the Tory crooks, like Jenrick, Johnson, and Patel go, without a murmur, but we'll continue to hound Corbyn, a decent man.
I'm not sure anyone has said corbyn isn't a decent man. What people have said is he has many skeletons in his cupboard concerning questionable people and his association with them. Some of his policies were a bit wacko and some the tories have even nicked!! The trouble is coyos he did not and does not resonate with the man in the street. He has been slayed by the press for the lack of action on anti semetism in his party which labour were found guilty of, with the bnp the only other party guilty of such a similar offence.
So much bullshit. Welcome back, Thorgey.
It’s incredible that a peaceful, life-long anti-racist has been portrayed as a dangerous racist and people have bought it. We truly are thick as sh*t.
This takes a lot of beating. Guess who said it.
Story from my past.
Worked for a company recently taken over by the Americans. Each Board member doing a presentation to our new owners and our own management team, part of our big welcome.
"My bit, IT, always like to add a bit of humour to a dry subject. I mentioned that last night I slept with a grandmother for the first time ever. Laughter amongst my colleagues, bemused faces amongst our American guests. My colleagues knew of course I had just become a grandfather and of course the grandmother I slept with was my wife.
Once explained, they understood the gag." Blah, blah, blah.
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 pm
So tuffers what's you View on Webb? Guilty in a court of law going to jail it would seem. No pictures from your mate for her?
Thor the £ 29 Billion on a unworkable T&T system used by Torys &
138,000 deaths from Covid .
Why would my mate need a picture of a BLACK woman who used some words .
when He is showing the F*cktards they ignore the real Crims by constantly
ignoring TORY CRIMINALS .
Glad you know the numbers. Amazing since this story is ignored.
Ignored ?
How does anyone Ignore death ?
Just Vote Labour ⚘
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:27 pm
Pictures you post tuffers its like your own little thread of steve whatever his name is. No one is posting there just you dear boy.
Now what's your view on Rayner and her ineptitude in talking to Ferrari?
My view is that Bodge Johnners is a fat lying TORY .
So you ignore the question, how very convenient of you.
