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Aldituffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:03 pmHow Many World Cups Have Germany won again ?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:51 pmMore importantly it isn't very democratic. At least football doesn't pretend to be that.
They have PR
Now i know many Englundish will claim 2 world wars
but i give you
Porsche Mercedes BMW Audi VW
Siemens Allianz Bosch Aldi Bayer
Puma Adidas Hugo Boss DHL Braun .
Hmmmm who won again ?
I thought England was the master race ?Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:28 pmThe master race. We can’t match their track record, especially when it comes to democracy and fair play.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:03 pmHow Many World Cups Have Germany won again ?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:51 pm
More importantly it isn't very democratic. At least football doesn't pretend to be that.
They have PR
Now i know many Englundish will claim 2 world wars
but i give you
Porsche Mercedes BMW Audi VW
Siemens Allianz Bosch Aldi Bayer
Puma Adidas Hugo Boss DHL Braun .
Hmmmm who won again ?
Not a bad little Family BuisnessPrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:47 pmAldituffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:03 pmHow Many World Cups Have Germany won again ?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:51 pm
More importantly it isn't very democratic. At least football doesn't pretend to be that.
They have PR
Now i know many Englundish will claim 2 world wars
but i give you
Porsche Mercedes BMW Audi VW
Siemens Allianz Bosch Aldi Bayer
Puma Adidas Hugo Boss DHL Braun .
Hmmmm who won again ?
The Formation of the British Empire was based on Nazi Ideaology ?
Hitler Youf eh ?RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:28 pm A lot like the EU than . That was also based on Nazi ideology
What on Earth are you going on about?Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:39 pmFootball should be decided on PR. Possession Rate. Last season we would have been promoted. Shame it’s determined by individual results success. Bummer.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:58 pmIndeed and that's why we should have PRCurrywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:52 pm
Shame elections are determined by seats and not vote share init
So you answer my post about The Empire with its Tens of Millions of Dead Bodies &
Not really, the direction of the conversation as gone off from where it started. Context changes. I tend to duck out these days when that happens in the playground.
. I’ll do that now.it was you who took it in a different directionDohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:17 pmNot really, the direction of the conversation as gone off from where it started. Context changes. I tend to duck out these days when that happens in the playground.. I’ll do that now.
You're not getting it. Who cares about Labour Party. It is a failed institution which is rotten to the core.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:27 pmBut a professor in the guardian said this week Labour would not stand a chance under PR.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:58 pmIndeed and that's why we should have PRCurrywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:52 pm
Shame elections are determined by seats and not vote share init
Arthur Scargill
Degsy Hatton
Not true. The Labour Party is a strong worker for the common man, over the past few years they have forgotten about the majority of us ordinary people and focussed on the extremist elements who have the biggest gobs and loudest shouts. Starmer is trying to rectify that. But it may take time.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:19 pmYou're not getting it. Who cares about Labour Party. It is a failed institution which is rotten to the core.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:27 pmBut a professor in the guardian said this week Labour would not stand a chance under PR.
You've got one of the biggest gobs on here so you must be an extremist.Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:00 pmNot true. The Labour Party is a strong worker for the common man, over the past few years they have forgotten about the majority of us ordinary people and focussed on the extremist elements who have the biggest gobs and loudest shouts. Starmer is trying to rectify that. But it may take time.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:19 pmYou're not getting it. Who cares about Labour Party. It is a failed institution which is rotten to the core.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:27 pm
But a professor in the guardian said this week Labour would not stand a chance under PR.
Yes it has .
2017 was our chance and the fuckers within the party ruined it for us.Jack wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:42 pm Labour have no chance of winning the next election, IMO.
They need to win around 125 Tory seats, as well as holding every one they already hold. Its never been done, and its not going to happen next time either.
The best Labour can expect, is to make inroads into the Tory lead, so that the election after next, they give themselves a tiny squeak of a chance.
Apart from that, Labour isnt making inroads, and isnt hitting it off with the electorate.
We are desperate for a decent opposition, who could beat the Tories, but Starmer's Labour isnt it IMO
The membership voted for the changes at conference budStowaway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:52 pm We still have a massive disconnect between the membership of the Labour Party and the Parliamentary Labour Party, ie, the MP’s. Far too many of the latter are just there pedalling the current tory lite line while the members are overwhelmingly far more socialist. That’s why SKSQC wants to change the party voting system so that it’s skewed in favour of the sitting MP’s rather than the general membership. Which, when you consider that the membership is well over 600,000 and the MP’s is 199, seems a bit odd. It’s almost like they want to change the system so that it’s harder for the membership to choose the leader. Isn’t that strange?
Wrong.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:56 pmThe membership voted for the changes at conference budStowaway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:52 pm We still have a massive disconnect between the membership of the Labour Party and the Parliamentary Labour Party, ie, the MP’s. Far too many of the latter are just there pedalling the current tory lite line while the members are overwhelmingly far more socialist. That’s why SKSQC wants to change the party voting system so that it’s skewed in favour of the sitting MP’s rather than the general membership. Which, when you consider that the membership is well over 600,000 and the MP’s is 199, seems a bit odd. It’s almost like they want to change the system so that it’s harder for the membership to choose the leader. Isn’t that strange?