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BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:33 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:03 pm 1,000 met officers currently suspended or on restricted duties. That sounds like quite a lot.

Offer then all the opportunity to go and fight for Ukraine or resign. That should do the trick.

More like send the drug dealers, violent offenders and such like on a one way ticket to fight in Ukraine and that's not to fight for the Russians or Wagner either ! !

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 1:54 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:33 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:03 pm 1,000 met officers currently suspended or on restricted duties. That sounds like quite a lot.

Offer then all the opportunity to go and fight for Ukraine or resign. That should do the trick.

More like send the drug dealers, violent offenders and such like on a one way ticket to fight in Ukraine and that's not to fight for the Russians or Wagner either ! !

Modern day transportation eh? Nah, send the bent bobby bastards - they're worse.

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:28 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 1:54 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:33 pm

Offer then all the opportunity to go and fight for Ukraine or resign. That should do the trick.

More like send the drug dealers, violent offenders and such like on a one way ticket to fight in Ukraine and that's not to fight for the Russians or Wagner either ! !

Modern day transportation eh? Nah, send the bent bobby bastards - they're worse.

That would be a drop in the ocean compared what Sid sensibly suggests. Maybe that is what is the problem concerning police recruitment . They are enrolled from those available in society and the rogues are slipping through the poor vetting .

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:20 am The fact that a number of serving armed officers have downed tools over the future prosecution of Chris Kaba is deeply worrying and suggests they are out of control. Due process and all that.

Throwing a paddy about potentially being held accountable for their actions. Says a lot.

The Ministry of Defence are going to supply cover. This is reassuring.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:20 pm

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:20 am The fact that a number of serving armed officers have downed tools over the future prosecution of Chris Kaba is deeply worrying and suggests they are out of control. Due process and all that.

Throwing a paddy about potentially being held accountable for their actions. Says a lot.

If you actually read why they are taking this action you may possibly understand. Likewise, if you read the link I posted earlier, I post again for ease, the calls for ‘justice’ seems to prejudge this case. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial, even an accused Police Officer.

This is nothing to do with the police being held to account.
The CPS following investigation by the IOPC have charged the officer with Murder. The officer is facing life imprisonment if convicted by a Jury.

This link explains that the situation the officer faced .

https://thecritic.co.uk/chris-kaba-and- ... judgement/

Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:33 pm The officer is facing life imprisonment if convicted by a Jury.

As they should if they murdered an unarmed man. What's the issue?

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:38 pm

Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:33 pm The officer is facing life imprisonment if convicted by a Jury.

As they should if they murdered an unarmed man. What's the issue?

Jean Charles Menendez was unarmed at Stockwell on the Tube, when the Officer concerned shot him repeatedly. The Officer was not charged. Proving the intent when the Officer has to make a decision in a split second is the issue and in this most recent case a decision had to be made with the information he had about the car and the driver. The driver was ramming his vehicle at police cars and towards the police. The full circumstances will be aired at the trial. Police should be investigated for wrong doings of course . Point is people are prejudging it all as though the trial will be a foredrawn conclusion.

So because the guy who shot Menendez was allowed to get away with murder, all the other cops should be? Righto.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:16 pm So because the guy who shot Menendez was allowed to get away with murder, all the other cops should be? Righto.

The police did not get away with Murder, no officers were charged with Murder. They are all judged on their own merit. In this case as mentioned in the link , the police showed Chris Kaba’s family the body cam footage as they demanded and having seen that were content with justice taking its course.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67372493

Senior Stephen Lawrence officer Ray Adams was corrupt, says secret Met report

Blimey.

That's in France

Blimey. Even the rozzers are getting in on the stabbing action now.

I assume they were Police issue cable ties and this is all just an unfortunate misunderstanding.

Met recruited alleged child rapist

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -counts-of

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:48 pm Met recruited alleged child rapist

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -counts-of

The recruiting is privatised to Capita or as Private Eye calls it ‘Crapita’. They have targets to achieve . My neighbour told me and he is a Chief Commander or something like that rank.

Is there anything Capita are good at or is that not the point?

Hmmm, who is Yanzi Gravy, I wonder?

Sarah Everard documentary- the bit that annoyed me most was how he could have been stopped years earlier if the police could just be bothered to investigate him properly for indecent exposure, all the evidence was there. Worse still, the officer who f*cked that up gets found not guilty of misconduct.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:50 pm Sarah Everard documentary- the bit that annoyed me most was how he could have been stopped years earlier if the police could just be bothered to investigate him properly for indecent exposure, all the evidence was there. Worse still, the officer who f*cked that up gets found not guilty of misconduct.

Want to watch this but also feel it will just f*cking proper depress me and make me angry at the incompetence

Apart from the policing of the vigil, I reckon they did a good job of catching him so quickly, shame the various police forces missed all the opportunities before this to stop him though.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:34 pm Is there anything Capita are good at or is that not the point?

They are very good at making money from incompetent public service procurement departments.

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:43 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:34 pm Is there anything Capita are good at or is that not the point?

They are very good at making money from incompetent public service procurement departments.

Wrong - They can’t even make money

https://www.standard.co.uk/business/cap ... 43435.html

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:57 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:43 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:34 pm Is there anything Capita are good at or is that not the point?

They are very good at making money from incompetent public service procurement departments.

Wrong - They can’t even make money

https://www.standard.co.uk/business/cap ... 43435.html

That kind of shows they're as crap at running their own business as they are at running their contracts. Can only imagine the scale of the backhanders flying around to get them so many Government contracts (allegedly).