Page 133 of 342

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:10 pm
by Thor
True that Redo.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:05 am
by tuffers#1
RedO wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:16 pm But the young aren’t dying from it?
But are they passing it on to older loved ones when they bring them there lockdown shopping ?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:45 am
by Disoriented
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:05 am
RedO wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:16 pm But the young aren’t dying from it?
But are they passing it on to older loved ones when they bring them there lockdown shopping ?
Good point Tiff.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:41 am
by NuneatonO's
England’s contact tracers 'making handful of calls' a month

It was hailed as a “world-beating” service by prime minister Boris Johnson at its launch, but three months on and contract tracers hired to work on England’s test-and-trace system say they are making only a handful of calls every month and are occupying their time with barbecues and quizzes.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ls-a-month

Wonder what Messrs. Johnson :clown and Hancock :clown have to say about it?

I also wonder where the Millions have gone that have been spunked up the wall.......including to a close associate of Cummings :evil: and Gove :clown?

Meanwhile, it appears that Local Authorities are having more success than this bent, incompetent Tory Government. Whoever would have guessed!



Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:27 pm
by Long slender neck
And what happened to the tracing app?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:30 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:05 am
RedO wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:16 pm But the young aren’t dying from it?
But are they passing it on to older loved ones when they bring them there lockdown shopping ?
Not if they wear gloves and wash the shopping down before storing it away.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:31 pm
by Long slender neck
Old people live on a diet of biscuits and cake anyway. Easy to stock up on.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:50 pm
by tuffers#1
RedO wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:30 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:05 am
RedO wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:16 pm But the young aren’t dying from it?
But are they passing it on to older loved ones when they bring them there lockdown shopping ?
Not if they wear gloves and wash the shopping down before storing it away.
Blimey your making them do an awful lot of work to keep them free of virus.

Easier to lockdown the irresponsible young virus
spreaders & leave the older more responsible to social distance properly.

After all the young uns are going to need all there energy
Working To pay back the £190 billion of debt .

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:07 pm
by Thor
£190 billion of debt that was created out of thin air. It didn’t exist, it was created, money is an illusion. Look up reserve fractional banking so as to understand.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:50 pm
by tuffers#1
So Leyton Orient didnt take a few hundred quid out of peoples bank accounts
for season cards .
Righto .

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:58 am
by RedDwarf 1881
I know we have various vaccines in development at the moment but what happens if none of them work. ? We can't have these lockdown measures forever otherwise we'll go bankrupt . Maybe the time is fast approaching where we all go back to normal . I think we're going to have to learn to live with this virus like we do the flu.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:55 pm
by Top of the JES
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:58 am I know we have various vaccines in development at the moment but what happens if none of them work. ? We can't have these lockdown measures forever otherwise we'll go bankrupt . Maybe the time is fast approaching where we all go back to normal . I think we're going to have to learn to live with this virus like we do the flu.
I would imagine that eventually we would develop herd immunity and build up some resistance. It would probably take a few years though.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:02 pm
by Long slender neck
"WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” - Donald J Trump

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:13 pm
by tuffers#1
" Had we gone with Herd , MILLIONS would have died " :- Donald J Trump

Full HBO interview

https://www.axios.com/full-axios-hbo-in ... doshs_mKpk

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm
by Top of the JES
@BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.


Good Guardian reporting theguardian.com/world/live/202…
on increasingly bizarre PHE daily death count, which includes any of the 250,000+ people who have tested positive and then died of any cause. DHSC allegedly suspended them pending an investigation on how they reach their number, still waiting on their findings.

So according to PHE we are on course for over a quarter of a million deaths i.e. Anyone who has ever contracted Covid. Including the infamous case of the bloke killed by a car while riding his motorbike and the cause of death on his death certificate was put down as Covid because he had previously had it.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:03 pm
by Disoriented
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm @BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.
Evidence?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:24 pm
by Thor
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm @BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.


Good Guardian reporting theguardian.com/world/live/202…
on increasingly bizarre PHE daily death count, which includes any of the 250,000+ people who have tested positive and then died of any cause. DHSC allegedly suspended them pending an investigation on how they reach their number, still waiting on their findings.

So according to PHE we are on course for over a quarter of a million deaths i.e. Anyone who has ever contracted Covid. Including the infamous case of the bloke killed by a car while riding his motorbike and the cause of death on his death certificate was put down as Covid because he had previously had it.
I’m pleased we have a person awake to the fraud that is being perpetrated by the people who govern us.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:29 pm
by faldO
Disoriented wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:03 pm
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm @BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.
Evidence?
viewtopic.php?p=123908#p123908

You thought it was "spin" last time. Is that still your view?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:34 pm
by Disoriented
faldO wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:29 pm
Disoriented wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:03 pm
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm @BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.
Evidence?
viewtopic.php?p=123908#p123908

You thought it was "spin" last time. Is that still your view?
Blind Freddie knows it fella.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:49 pm
by Currywurst and Chips

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:05 am
by Disoriented
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:49 pm
Put your seatbelts on and hang on tight.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:14 am
by NuneatonO's
The French government says it has recorded 2,288 new confirmed COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours which is up 684 cases from yesterday.

I'm quite sure that's not what the French government actually said - given that the past 24 hours would actually have been yesterday?

The absolute dire state of journalism these days! :roll:

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:53 am
by Disoriented
NuneatonO's wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:14 am The French government says it has recorded 2,288 new confirmed COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours which is up 684 cases from yesterday.

I'm quite sure that's not what the French government actually said - given that the past 24 hours would actually have been yesterday?

The absolute dire state of journalism these days! :roll:
Dream Team would never tolerate that standard.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:06 am
by Still's Carenae
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm @BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.


Good Guardian reporting theguardian.com/world/live/202…
on increasingly bizarre PHE daily death count, which includes any of the 250,000+ people who have tested positive and then died of any cause. DHSC allegedly suspended them pending an investigation on how they reach their number, still waiting on their findings.

So according to PHE we are on course for over a quarter of a million deaths i.e. Anyone who has ever contracted Covid. Including the infamous case of the bloke killed by a car while riding his motorbike and the cause of death on his death certificate was put down as Covid because he had previously had it.
Sadly 2 of my friends died they both only had about a week to live as at end of life, cancer and an aggressive dementia. They both got Covid and this was added to the figures.

I am aware that the counting in care homes was that if one patient in the home had Covid then all deaths were then classed as Covid. Considering the average life expectancy in care homes is 11 months, you expect to lose 10% per month.

If you look at the numbers only 4.5% did not have an underlying issue, but 40% have been obese.

Our figures have sadly because of our
systems been heavily overstated.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:03 am
by Long slender neck
Just seen stats for my borough. About ten cases a week over the past couple of months and 1 death a week, sometimes none.