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The whole organisation is not fit for purpose.
As what?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:50 pmThe whole organisation is not fit for purpose.
Aside from the 1,000 criminals currently suspended, what the effing fuk were the superior officers who are supposed to run it doing?
Close it down. Start again.
I agree about your comments about senior officers. Lack of supervision is a major issue. However, there is a breakdown in standards and decency in society as a whole I would argue and the police are not the only institution where staff discipline is of deep concern. It was reported this week that at one prison alone in the UK, 18 female wardens have been sacked for inappropriate relationships with male inmates, sexual relationships, drugs and phone smuggling etc.ChorizO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:51 amAs what?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:50 pmThe whole organisation is not fit for purpose.
Aside from the 1,000 criminals currently suspended, what the effing fuk were the superior officers who are supposed to run it doing?
Close it down. Start again.
Events management companyChorizO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:51 amAs what?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:50 pmThe whole organisation is not fit for purpose.
Aside from the 1,000 criminals currently suspended, what the effing fuk were the superior officers who are supposed to run it doing?
Close it down. Start again.
God help us if they get the contract to manage the Notting Hill Carnival.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:56 amEvents management companyChorizO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:51 amAs what?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:50 pm
The whole organisation is not fit for purpose.
Aside from the 1,000 criminals currently suspended, what the effing fuk were the superior officers who are supposed to run it doing?
Close it down. Start again.
Evidence?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:10 amI agree about your comments about senior officers. Lack of supervision is a major issue. However, there is a breakdown in standards and decency in society as a whole I would argue and the police are not the only institution where staff discipline is of deep concern. It was reported this week that at one prison alone in the UK, 18 female wardens have been sacked for inappropriate relationships with male inmates, sexual relationships, drugs and phone smuggling etc.ChorizO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:51 amAs what?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:50 pm
The whole organisation is not fit for purpose.
Aside from the 1,000 criminals currently suspended, what the effing fuk were the superior officers who are supposed to run it doing?
Close it down. Start again.
The BMA have had numerous doctors disciplined or struck off for sexual wrongdoing’s. The police are drawn from the public pool, nowhere else to recruit from. They have lowered standards to meet diversity targets and a disproportionate amount of ethnic officers are not making the grade or being disciplined out of the service. A friend of mine is in police recruitment as a civilian he tells me they were turning blind eyed to matters that would have led to a refusal 3 years ago.
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:31 pmEvidence?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:10 amI agree about your comments about senior officers. Lack of supervision is a major issue. However, there is a breakdown in standards and decency in society as a whole I would argue and the police are not the only institution where staff discipline is of deep concern. It was reported this week that at one prison alone in the UK, 18 female wardens have been sacked for inappropriate relationships with male inmates, sexual relationships, drugs and phone smuggling etc.
The BMA have had numerous doctors disciplined or struck off for sexual wrongdoing’s. The police are drawn from the public pool, nowhere else to recruit from. They have lowered standards to meet diversity targets and a disproportionate amount of ethnic officers are not making the grade or being disciplined out of the service. A friend of mine is in police recruitment as a civilian he tells me they were turning blind eyed to matters that would have led to a refusal 3 years ago.
https://touch.policeoracle.com/news/art ... ?id=107700
Which bit says 'ethnic' officers arent making the grade?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:47 pmhttps://touch.policeoracle.com/news/art ... ?id=107700Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:31 pmEvidence?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 7:10 am
I agree about your comments about senior officers. Lack of supervision is a major issue. However, there is a breakdown in standards and decency in society as a whole I would argue and the police are not the only institution where staff discipline is of deep concern. It was reported this week that at one prison alone in the UK, 18 female wardens have been sacked for inappropriate relationships with male inmates, sexual relationships, drugs and phone smuggling etc.
The BMA have had numerous doctors disciplined or struck off for sexual wrongdoing’s. The police are drawn from the public pool, nowhere else to recruit from. They have lowered standards to meet diversity targets and a disproportionate amount of ethnic officers are not making the grade or being disciplined out of the service. A friend of mine is in police recruitment as a civilian he tells me they were turning blind eyed to matters that would have led to a refusal 3 years ago.
By disproportionately being dismissed , they are failing the grade, to last it out and progress their careers. Some reasons for dismissal are quite serious .Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:52 pmWhich bit says 'ethnic' officers arent making the grade?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:47 pmhttps://touch.policeoracle.com/news/art ... ?id=107700
How do we know they are not failing the grade because of racism in an institutionally and literally racist organisation?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:50 pmBy disproportionately being dismissed , they are failing the grade, to last it out and progress their careers. Some reasons for dismissal are quite serious .Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:52 pmWhich bit says 'ethnic' officers arent making the grade?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:47 pm
https://touch.policeoracle.com/news/art ... ?id=107700
That doesn't sound very likely, does it?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:59 pmHow do we know they are not failing the grade because of racism in an institutionally and literally racist organisation?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:50 pmBy disproportionately being dismissed , they are failing the grade, to last it out and progress their careers. Some reasons for dismissal are quite serious .Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:52 pm
Which bit says 'ethnic' officers arent making the grade?
That has been alleged as a possible reason , however if you look at the make up of the various disciplinary boards, they have gone a long way to address this by them hiringStillSpike wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 6:10 pmThat doesn't sound very likely, does it?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:59 pmHow do we know they are not failing the grade because of racism in an institutionally and literally racist organisation?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:50 pm
By disproportionately being dismissed , they are failing the grade, to last it out and progress their careers. Some reasons for dismissal are quite serious .
Probably not. I have no idea how the thought ever crossed my mind.StillSpike wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 6:10 pmThat doesn't sound very likely, does it?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:59 pmHow do we know they are not failing the grade because of racism in an institutionally and literally racist organisation?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:50 pm
By disproportionately being dismissed , they are failing the grade, to last it out and progress their careers. Some reasons for dismissal are quite serious .
They have families and do not want to be jailed for years for doing their job they have been trained to do.Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:20 am The fact that a number of serving armed officers have downed tools over the future prosecution of Chris Kaba is deeply worrying and suggests they are out of control. Due process and all that.
Who would want to be a London police officer ?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:50 am This is a very good article on the subject of Chris Kaba
https://thecritic.co.uk/chris-kaba-and- ... judgement/
Not for the pay offered and those carrying guns don’t get extra except in overtime, Take all the risks including a murder charge!Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:01 amWho would want to be a London police officer ?Loin Cloth Lenny wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:50 am This is a very good article on the subject of Chris Kaba
https://thecritic.co.uk/chris-kaba-and- ... judgement/
Do you phone LBC during the night?
No - I have a line they keep open for me 24x7.
BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 1:21 pmNo - I have a line they keep open for me 24x7.
