Re: Inflation
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:08 pm
Very glad I do not have a mortgage; feel for those that do. The spectre of negative equity is not so far away for some..
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It's one great big transfer of wealth from the workers to banks, insurance, hedge funds, oil, gas, weapons, supermarkets etc to fill the hole created by Truss, Brexit, war in Ukraine and the Pandemic.OTF Photography Ltd wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:17 pm Mines coming up in October - joy
Surely the continued interest rate rise is for the rich who made money from inflation to get even more back in interest!
Not that it's that much better over there tbh.
This is my argument for not getting behind Sirkier.CEB wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:35 am Question stemming from complete ignorance - is it almost better if things get completely f*cked, on the basis that if everyone is f*cked, a solution needs to be found pretty damned quickly?
Whereas if it’s just a bit f*cked, then everyone just struggles on like a frog slowly boiling
Except the decline in earnings, public services the NHS, leisure facilities, youth clubs, libraries, benefits, education etc has been a feature of the last 40 years. Civil society has been infected with greed, anger, selfishness and hate. It's all happened gradually and unevenly to the extent that it has been almost normalised.TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:50 amThis is my argument for not getting behind Sirkier.CEB wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:35 am Question stemming from complete ignorance - is it almost better if things get completely f*cked, on the basis that if everyone is f*cked, a solution needs to be found pretty damned quickly?
Whereas if it’s just a bit f*cked, then everyone just struggles on like a frog slowly boiling
You could always try an EU country, not too far to travel. The good news is their inflation is not as bad as ours. The bad news is as we are no longer EU citizens its harder to get in and they probably don't want us.
Reported. Come on admin, don't let conspiraloons get away with this unchallenged.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:37 am
So far the minor rebellion instigated by Corbyn and Co was crushed by the right in alliance with the middle class bourgiose liberals who invariably side with the right against socialists.
Never!Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:43 amYou could always try an EU country, not too far to travel. The good news is their inflation is not as bad as ours. The bad news is as we are no longer EU citizens its harder to get in and they probably don't want us.
Going to be hell for plenty !Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:08 pm Very glad I do not have a mortgage; feel for those that do. The spectre of negative equity is not so far away for some..
But we don't have an informed electorate, only one fed propaganda, lies and spin 24 hours a day.CEB wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:10 pm “
So far the minor rebellion instigated by Corbyn and Co was crushed by the right in alliance with the middle class bourgiose liberals who invariably side with the right against socialists. But as the condition of society degenerates further it becomes nastier and they too will pay a horrible price for that.”
Agree. The worst bit was when Corbyn didn’t get to see whether the electorate would vote for his ideals. If only the bourgeoisie had allowed him just one general election
Never underestimate the ability to dream.CEB wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:09 pm If you believe that people who aren’t as informed should not have their views considered valid, then that’s great news, im very happy to hear that you’ve retired from the trans debate.
Or is it just that you think that your ongoing adherence to vague dreams of revolution makes you better than everyone else?
Explain to me why the democracy we currently have delivers to working class people and how it can be improved. Note - your answer should include reference to the economic system. But use less than 200 words.CEB wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:16 pm I mean, that’s you literally debating with your previous expressed opinion on the matter, so good to see you’re as confused as ever on that one.
Re “views” it’s fine - you’re not a fan of democracy and you’re one of those tedious old fools who doesn’t have any actual solutions. But that’s fine, that’s been obvious for a while now. Tories love people like you
So no solutions then. Figures. What makes you believe I have opted out of democracy. It needs to be broadened in every aspect of life as a step in the move to a socialist society.CEB wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:23 pm Why would I explain to you something that I don’t believe?
I don’t think the current system is great, I just find it laughable that fools like you opt out of what democracy we have, in favour of half arsed drunken mumbling of revolution.
Bet you a tenner that in twenty years we still have the same system, and you will have done the square root of f*** all to change it