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Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:06 pm
by Dunners
Did you used to vote Labour, Prez?
You kept that quiet.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:11 pm
by tuffers#1
Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:05 pm
StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:58 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm
Try to take into consideration the moron factor of many in the U.K. who choose to ignore Government guidelines.
I've asked this before, and never had a satisfactory response. What makes people in the UK more moronic that others? Is there some genetic/dietary/environmental reason - or might it be somehow connected to how we are led?
Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm
Try to look at the issues without
red coloured glasses. But of course the
looney left have no interest in this. Hey ho. I dislike Boris with a passion
so no political bias there.
Nope, none at all.
I’m a self confessed Blairite.
That Explains a lot
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:52 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
David Goodhart, fan of the Governments ‘hostile environment’ policy, appointed to EHRC board
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... -appointed
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:08 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
slacker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:06 am
I see the likes of Peston and Laura K have embarrassed themselves again making this aide sacking story the top headline - confusing their bubble gossip and briefings for actual important news. Client journalism at its worst.
You don't see the Prime Minister's inner circle in civil war, with his chief spin doctor and advisor saying they're quitting (because of said war) in 7 weeks as headline news?
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:20 pm
by PoliticOs
Classic Dom.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:25 pm
by Long slender neck
Why does Carrie get a say in anything?
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:28 pm
by PoliticOs
Well, she shouldn't. And I think that part of the story is a little manufactured but I guess she has a bigger part to play than most PM's spouses in as much as she used to work in Comms for the Conservative Party so she's got personal relationships with the actors involved.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:29 pm
by Long slender neck
Hope this is because they are going to do a deal soon.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:44 pm
by PoliticOs
I imagine they are about to do a deal, yeah. An Australia type deal maybe? (I.e not really a deal of any note but nicer framing).
How did you vote PW? I reckon you're a remoaner.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:58 pm
by tuffers#1
Wouldnt be a suprise ro me if Johnson is
going to a deal with the EU to stay loyal to them .
None of them would be walking if it was a deal
In the sense of Australia Canada Japan etc .
In other words we'd have been better off staying in
because this is gonna cost more .
Nobody wins Leavers or moaners
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:52 am
by E10EU
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:38 am
Well done Boris and Rishi record growth for the quarter, a great result as the government of the people.
This post wins the prize for FOTY (Fool of the year).
Given that prior to this quarter everything apart from food stores was closed .... !!!
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:08 am
by E10EU
Good question. She has never been elected for anything that gives her authority over us.
I guess it's simply a case of Johnson having to please her for a peaceful bedroom sphere.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:22 am
by E10EU
PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:44 pm
An Australia type deal maybe? (I.e not really a deal of any note but nicer framing).
So just a mega dishonesty to fool the general public?
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:26 am
by PoliticOs
I don't think it's about fooling the general public anymore. Everyone knows what they are like, the public just do not care.
Politics is about feeling, not substance. The public feels like the Tories get them and their wants and needs, so by default they do. Even if it's wrong for them or proven to not work or proven to harm, it is what they want and they are good at giving the public that feeling, so people feel satisfied enough.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:27 am
by PoliticOs
But yeah, basically.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:32 am
by E10EU
PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:44 pm
I reckon you're a remoaner.
Let's see who will end up moaning the most when the promised global power, influence, glory, fish and the easiest trade deal in history don't materialise within 45 days!
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:36 am
by PoliticOs
...it still won't be leavers. I guarantee that.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:46 am
by E10EU
PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:36 am
...it still won't be leavers. I guarantee that.
What a curious similarity to the current US presidential election.
The world knows that Biden was lawfully elected yet a malevolent snake charmer still entices his followers to disbelieve and rampage in protest!
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:21 am
by E10EU
The EHRC is the supposedly neutral and exceedingly powerful board but they declined to investigate allegations of Tory party racism and xenophobia! They deemed the Tories capable of investigating themselves!!!
They spent 18 months digging through Labour party records and found a very small number of proven cases. Something like 0.2% ? Or was it 0.02%?
You would not know this if you just listened to Starmer's response! He sacked Corbyn from the PLP for stating the balanced facts from the summary of the report.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:52 am
by Disoriented
Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:05 pm
StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:58 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm
Try to take into consideration the moron factor of many in the U.K. who choose to ignore Government guidelines.
I've asked this before, and never had a satisfactory response. What makes people in the UK more moronic that others? Is there some genetic/dietary/environmental reason - or might it be somehow connected to how we are led?
Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm
Try to look at the issues without
red coloured glasses. But of course the
looney left have no interest in this. Hey ho. I dislike Boris with a passion
so no political bias there.
Nope, none at all.
Not at all. I’ve been plenty critical of many things the Tories have done. Never made any secret of my dislike for Boris even before he became leader. I’ve consistently been complimentary to Kier and aware of the difficulties he face. If there was an election tomorrow, Labour would get my vote like they have for the majority of my life. It’s only in recent years I’ve become anti Labour and that’s down the the rubbish leaders they choose to elect. I’m a self confessed Blairite.
Thinking about it, maybe Kier once he sorts out the current Labour shambles.
Shameless.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:24 pm
by tuffers#1
So i wonder who Boris got the ping for
Theyve said its an M.P
Is it a Tory ?
We know its not Sir Kier as he.has already had it .
Gove or Jacob He is Smug I'd say !
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:17 am
by Disoriented
E10EU wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:22 am
PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:44 pm
An Australia type deal maybe? (I.e not really a deal of any note but nicer framing).
So just a mega dishonesty to fool the general public?
No, just Thor and Red Dwarf.
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:43 pm
by Oiram
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:12 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 9:48 am
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 8:41 am
Poor analysis. The Tories lost 1300 seats - Labour less than 100.
In no way can a comparison be made here, although your last point is indeed a salient one.
The Torres got what they deserved. However, what’s funny is the people still don’t want Labour to run their councils, cos let’s face it the ones they do run are useless.
Really? Name one?
Waltham Forest and whilst I’m at it, Redbridge
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:37 pm
by tuffers#1
Oiram wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:43 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:12 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 9:48 am
The Torres got what they deserved. However, what’s funny is the people still don’t want Labour to run their councils, cos let’s face it the ones they do run are useless.
Really? Name one?
Waltham Forest and whilst I’m at it, Redbridge
Nothing wrong with LBWF !!
Re: Tory Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:45 pm
by Disoriented
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:37 pm
Oiram wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:43 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:12 pm
Really? Name one?
Waltham Forest and whilst I’m at it, Redbridge
Nothing wrong with LBWF !!
Correct.
