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As a manager, Jackett has achieved 3 promotions. Also involved in another 3 promotions as an assistant. Who with a better record do the doubters propose to replace him with.

There's no one who can do better at short notice, so of course keep him

What rubbish.

We’re sleepwalking into relegation.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:52 pm

Results so poor, just incredible some still back him.

Tbf you wanted to keep emblefud so I’ll go with the opposite of what you think when it comes to managers.

How's that working out for you?

Still 100% the right decision, how’s Ross’ managerial career working out for you?

Managed more points than dinosaur Jackett

Yeah you’re right, let’s get rid of Ken and get Ross in. He’ll have the know how to get us back on track! :

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:52 pm

Results so poor, just incredible some still back him.

Feel free to concentrate on the 29 matches of this injury ravaged season. I'll concentrate on Jackett's whole managerial career. 920 matches, 407 wins, 236 draws, 277 losses.

Ross would be great but he already has a company which gives advice to clubs and managers why would he come out of that to manage us

Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:25 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:52 pm

Results so poor, just incredible some still back him.

Feel free to concentrate on the 29 matches of this injury ravaged season. I'll concentrate on Jackett's whole managerial career. 920 matches, 407 wins, 236 draws, 277 losses.

Couldn't care less about his previous record, only one club counts. Injuries happen every season.

faith1234 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:26 pm Ross would be great but he already has a company which gives advice to clubs and managers why would he come out of that to manage us

Is the advice "Don't hire me"?

How the f8ck can anyone in their right f8cking mind want KJ still to manage this team?
The results are the worst in 20 years!!! And That take some beating!!

I admit it’s not just KJ to blame, the squad are as useful as a chocolate teapot at the moment but we can’t sack every player (mores the pity).

We have not progressed one bit since promotion, if anything we have become worse. The standard of football is awful. What’s even more worrying is our best players are loans!

It’s just a very simple question - what type of manager do you need to get out of a relegation battle? An experienced manager who’s been there and done it. We have one.

Let’s get to the end of the season and reassess.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:52 pm It’s just a very simple question - what type of manager do you need to get out of a relegation battle? An experienced manager who’s been there and done it. We have one.

Let’s get to the end of the season and reassess.

He is the f8cking mug who put us in the sh1t in the first place!!

Get rid!! open yours and see it for what it is. Old man, struggling to work out anything other than 3-5-2 and has lost the respect of the team.

And bullshit excuse about injuries, every squad has them. His fault he bought a crock in Smyth. His fault the quality is not there. His fault he has to play a back four with all centre backs, his fault the results are awful. His fault.

Frogger wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:57 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:52 pm It’s just a very simple question - what type of manager do you need to get out of a relegation battle? An experienced manager who’s been there and done it. We have one.

Let’s get to the end of the season and reassess.

He is the f8cking mug who put us in the sh1t in the first place!!

Get rid!! open yours and see it for what it is. Old man, struggling to work out anything other than 3-5-2 and has lost the respect of the team.

Well you’ve clearly thought this through logically, without emotion so I’ll change my mind. Sack him.

I am an emotional person.

We are doomed under jackett, we can’t score which means we won’t win games which means national league football.

Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:43 pm Just remember what happened after Russell Slade had 3 points after 10 games at the start of the 11-12 season. All were baying for his blood. Hearn ignored the supporters fortunately.

Things are improving, game by game. Once we start scoring, results will change.

One other point, Nigel said that in the NFL they had worked out statistically that if a manager has a bad patch, but is allowed to continue in the position, the results over the long run are better than chopping and changing.

This.
IIRC; we only just stayed up on the last or penultimate game of that season, by beating Wycombe 2-0, with Ryan Jarvis and a worldie from a certain Moses Odubajo to announce his entrance
Within 18 months we were top of League 1

Things are grim at the moment certainly, but you don't become a bad manager overnight. I don't necessarily agree that Kenny has "lost the dressing room", and none of those saying he has are in the dressing room, so they're only guessing.

If we get rid of KJ then where then?. It's apparent all those yelling for him to go haven't suggested a single alternative. We will be starting to appear a basket case club.
I believe that had we scored first against Exeter and today we would have won those games.

On this basis, I voted to retain KJ personally.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:59 pm

Frogger wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:57 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:52 pm It’s just a very simple question - what type of manager do you need to get out of a relegation battle? An experienced manager who’s been there and done it. We have one.

Let’s get to the end of the season and reassess.

He is the f8cking mug who put us in the sh1t in the first place!!

Get rid!! open yours and see it for what it is. Old man, struggling to work out anything other than 3-5-2 and has lost the respect of the team.

Well you’ve clearly thought this through logically, without emotion so I’ll change my mind. Sack him.

Keeping him is much the better idea. Let’s give him another 15 games, surely we can’t lose everyone, if we can keep a clean sheet we are nailed on for 15 points!!

The more time he gets, the closer to the trapdoor we will be.

Frogger wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:11 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:59 pm

Frogger wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:57 pm
He is the f8cking mug who put us in the sh1t in the first place!!

Get rid!! open yours and see it for what it is. Old man, struggling to work out anything other than 3-5-2 and has lost the respect of the team.

Well you’ve clearly thought this through logically, without emotion so I’ll change my mind. Sack him.

Keeping him is much the better idea. Let’s give him another 15 games, surely we can’t lose everyone, if we can keep a clean sheet we are nailed on for 15 points!!

Glad you’ve seen sense

Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:09 pm

Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:43 pm Just remember what happened after Russell Slade had 3 points after 10 games at the start of the 11-12 season. All were baying for his blood. Hearn ignored the supporters fortunately.

Things are improving, game by game. Once we start scoring, results will change.

One other point, Nigel said that in the NFL they had worked out statistically that if a manager has a bad patch, but is allowed to continue in the position, the results over the long run are better than chopping and changing.

This.
IIRC; we only just stayed up on the last or penultimate game of that season, by beating Wycombe 2-0, with Ryan Jarvis and a worldie from a certain Moses Odubajo to announce his entrance
Within 18 months we were top of League 1

To be pedantic wasn’t the Moses goal against Rochdale in the season after that Wycombe game? From memory maybe Mcgleish got the other goal in that game?