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Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:14 am
by Max B Gold
o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:35 am
Thor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:44 pm
The government has the met where it wants it - under its thumb. The commissioner is damaged goods and will do anything the government says in a reciprocal deal for giving her a new contract.
It's not good.
I don't usually agree with Thor, but he's got this one right.
I suspect that the Met's lack of willingness to investigate clear breaches of the law where they were actually present has done much, much more to undermine them amonst those who generally respect the police (and the challenges they face) than the actions of individual officers which always make the front pages.
Good point. Even when they do nothing they prove beyond doubt they are not fit for purpose.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:47 am
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:14 am
o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:35 am
Thor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:44 pm
The government has the met where it wants it - under its thumb. The commissioner is damaged goods and will do anything the government says in a reciprocal deal for giving her a new contract.
It's not good.
I don't usually agree with Thor, but he's got this one right.
I suspect that the Met's lack of willingness to investigate clear breaches of the law where they were actually present has done much, much more to undermine them amonst those who generally respect the police (and the challenges they face) than the actions of individual officers which always make the front pages.
Good point. Even when they do nothing they prove beyond doubt they are not fit for purpose.
Govt Plod or both ?
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:16 am
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:47 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:14 am
o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:35 am
I don't usually agree with Thor, but he's got this one right.
I suspect that the Met's lack of willingness to investigate clear breaches of the law where they were actually present has done much, much more to undermine them amonst those who generally respect the police (and the challenges they face) than the actions of individual officers which always make the front pages.
Good point. Even when they do nothing they prove beyond doubt they are not fit for purpose.
Govt Plod or both ?
All three of them.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:06 pm
by Max B Gold
Yet another one from the not fit for purpose Met. This time it has taken them 8 years to admit their guilt.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... y-language
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:12 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Strip searched for handing a 15 year old a card with his rights on. Such utter wankers
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:17 pm
by Beradogs
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:24 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Beradogs wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:17 pm
Made me laugh.
What bit?
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:58 pm
by faldO
Hope her anti-police views didn't have anything to do with this.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:24 pm
by Max B Gold
Good god, they're coming thick and fast this week.
The not fit for purpose Met have violated human rights and cost the taxpayer £229K.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ate-wilson
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:24 pm
by Max B Gold
faldO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:58 pm
Hope her anti-police views didn't have anything to do with this.
Just proves she was right to have those views.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:24 pm
by Max B Gold
I see the corrupt to the core Met are in the news again today.
Defund the Met. Sack willy
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:30 pm
by Dunners
It is looking a bit dodge, isn't it?
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:35 pm
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:30 pm
It is looking a bit dodge, isn't it?
The Met: Defending corrupting in London since 1829.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:18 pm
by Max B Gold
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:54 pm
by tuffers#1
18 years ago ?
Didn't Dominic Raab say Police don't investigate stuff from a Year ago ?
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:15 pm
by Dunners
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:24 pm
I see the corrupt to the core Met are in the news again today.
Defund the Met. Sack willy
I think the Commissioner's incompetence is truly something to behold. However I have just read this explanation as to why there are
potentially valid reasons for the Met’s stance:
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2022/01/ ... nt-report/
That doesn't mean they're off the hook, of course.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:05 pm
by Stowaway
Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:15 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:24 pm
I see the corrupt to the core Met are in the news again today.
Defund the Met. Sack willy
I think the Commissioner's incompetence is truly something to behold. However I have just read this explanation as to why there are
potentially valid reasons for the Met’s stance:
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2022/01/ ... nt-report/
That doesn't mean they're off the hook, of course.
The Secret Barrister should be compulsory reading for everyone, especially those who get all foamy at the mouth over These Sort Of Things.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:34 pm
by Max B Gold
Stowaway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:05 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:15 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:24 pm
I see the corrupt to the core Met are in the news again today.
Defund the Met. Sack willy
I think the Commissioner's incompetence is truly something to behold. However I have just read this explanation as to why there are
potentially valid reasons for the Met’s stance:
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2022/01/ ... nt-report/
That doesn't mean they're off the hook, of course.
The Secret Barrister should be compulsory reading for everyone, especially those who get all foamy at the mouth over These Sort Of Things.
Hmm, even though he admits he never got the reason why the Met may be acting as they are and somebody had to explain it to him? Remind me not to appoint him as my lawyer when the Met frame me.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:19 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
I don’t think it’s what they are doing, it’s the timing. They could have questioned people under caution months ago but declined to do so.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:07 pm
by Max B Gold
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:19 pm
I don’t think it’s what they are doing, it’s the timing. They could have questioned people under caution months ago but declined to do so.
Which just goes to show that their decision not to investigate multiple offences before Gray was appointed was wrong.
This stinks to high heaven and the cover up stinks even more.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:17 pm
by Dunners
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:07 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:19 pm
I don’t think it’s what they are doing, it’s the timing. They could have questioned people under caution months ago but declined to do so.
Which just goes to show that their decision not to investigate multiple offences before Gray was appointed was wrong.
Thus stinks to high heaven and the cover up stinks even more.
Yep. Even if what they are doing now is appropriate, their conduct so far has undermined their credibility and any confidence the public can have in them. That is poor leadership.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:21 pm
by Long slender neck
Ooh, might prejudice their late investigation, theres fixed penalty notices at stake.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:38 am
by tuffers#1
Just Throw the T#ry scum in jail
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:49 pm
by Max B Gold
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:21 pm
Ooh, might prejudice their late investigation, theres fixed penalty notices at stake.
What about misconduct in public office. That attracts more than a penalty notice.
Re: To Serve and Protect
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:58 pm
by Dunners
Lest we forget Cressida's role in the wrongful killing and then subsequent character assassination of Jean Charles de Menezes.