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Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:41 pm
by Cheshunto
Far better performance today against a decent side who possibly deserved something from today’s game.
The shot that hit the inside , on another day it goes in and it’s 1-1 and a totally different game.
Kemp seems to improve with every game and looks to be a really good signing........well done Martin Ling.
On the other hand, DJ probably needs a break as he looks increasingly frustrated, and maybe Abrahams deserves a start for the next game.
I think the most positive thing for me on today’s performance was the fact we actually created chances and had far more shots on target than for ages.
Good to see Brophy back and the play offs are at least a possibility if the current run of form continues.
Jobi must think this managing game is a piece of cake LOL
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:55 pm
by Sid Bishop
MungOgogo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:32 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:19 pm
MungOgogo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:11 pm
If everyone was Fit , this wouldnt be the starting 11 . 1 of the centre halves would be out for Thompson
Wouldn't change a winning side but it's a nice problem to have. If we could get Akinola in summer as primarily CB, renewing Happe and Turley that's your CBs sorted.
Thompson will be fit in the summer . He & Turley will be injured at some point next season . We can dream about Tunji signing full time at best . Never say Never though .
I think Thompson has broken his ankle ? If so, than a bad injury to get over, time will tell if he does make a full recovery, hopefully he will. Thompson is ( judging by his past injury record ) a rather injury prone player so do not place too much on him playing next season without missing some games along the way.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:05 pm
by Monkey Boy
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:34 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:31 pm
Hot shot hamish now there’s a blast from the past.
Turley was once again awesome, just goes to show how shortsighted you can become and blinkered when selecting a team. Deserves his place and long may that continue.
Also Cisse deserves 7.5 and Clay a 7 they worked their backsides off today and Jobi said of Cisse I don’t know how he played the last game let alone today. That’s commitment.
Well as for Ross, his tactics and selections, well the difference is that now we have people in charge who have played football and know what they are doing. Never rated Ross as Boss and a mystery to me as to how he remained in the job for so long. Jobi/Danny was a good partnership in waiting, so they have got their chance now to show what they can do so hope it works out well for them and if so, then of course good for Leyton Orient. Perhaps if Cisse is unavailable through injury next game, then Hector can come in to replace his and will be a big blow if in form Wilkinson misses our next game and if he does miss out, then I am guessing that Jobi or Dennis will come in to replace him.
Spot on Sid,as a pro footballer who would you take more notice of,someone who’s never hardly played or someone who’s been there done it at the highest level and has a lot of experience. Why did Embleton stay so long? Jobs for the boys I’m afraid to say yet again.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:26 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:34 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:31 pm
Hot shot hamish now there’s a blast from the past.
Turley was once again awesome, just goes to show how shortsighted you can become and blinkered when selecting a team. Deserves his place and long may that continue.
Also Cisse deserves 7.5 and Clay a 7 they worked their backsides off today and Jobi said of Cisse I don’t know how he played the last game let alone today. That’s commitment.
Well as for Ross, his tactics and selections, well the difference is that now we have people in charge who have played football and know what they are doing. Never rated Ross as Boss and a mystery to me as to how he remained in the job for so long. Jobi/Danny was a good partnership in waiting, so they have got their chance now to show what they can do so hope it works out well for them and if so, then of course good for Leyton Orient. Perhaps if Cisse is unavailable through injury next game, then Hector can come in to replace his and will be a big blow if in form Wilkinson misses our next game and if he does miss out, then I am guessing that Jobi or Dennis will come in to replace him.
It's been explained to you several times that you don't necessarily have needed to have played football to have been a good manager, so why do you keep going on about people knowing football because they played the game professionally?
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:29 pm
by Sid Bishop
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:05 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:34 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:31 pm
Hot shot hamish now there’s a blast from the past.
Turley was once again awesome, just goes to show how shortsighted you can become and blinkered when selecting a team. Deserves his place and long may that continue.
Also Cisse deserves 7.5 and Clay a 7 they worked their backsides off today and Jobi said of Cisse I don’t know how he played the last game let alone today. That’s commitment.
Well as for Ross, his tactics and selections, well the difference is that now we have people in charge who have played football and know what they are doing. Never rated Ross as Boss and a mystery to me as to how he remained in the job for so long. Jobi/Danny was a good partnership in waiting, so they have got their chance now to show what they can do so hope it works out well for them and if so, then of course good for Leyton Orient. Perhaps if Cisse is unavailable through injury next game, then Hector can come in to replace his and will be a big blow if in form Wilkinson misses our next game and if he does miss out, then I am guessing that Jobi or Dennis will come in to replace him.
Spot on Sid,as a pro footballer who would you take more notice of,someone who’s never hardly played or someone who’s been there done it at the highest level and has a lot of experience. Why did Embleton stay so long? Jobs for the boys I’m afraid to say yet again.
You know it, I know it !
I started playing football when I was around 7 years old, was a good footballer but after a bad injury in my early twenties, the flame burned inside me to form my own team, managed them to much success and they got better as we moved onto higher leagues and ended up as a team playing for me that had ex pros and an England amateur youth international who had been on the books of Crystal Palace, got married and after ten years got a job where i was very involved especially at week ends so I passed my team onto others to run, enough said.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:30 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:05 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:34 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:31 pm
Hot shot hamish now there’s a blast from the past.
Turley was once again awesome, just goes to show how shortsighted you can become and blinkered when selecting a team. Deserves his place and long may that continue.
Also Cisse deserves 7.5 and Clay a 7 they worked their backsides off today and Jobi said of Cisse I don’t know how he played the last game let alone today. That’s commitment.
Well as for Ross, his tactics and selections, well the difference is that now we have people in charge who have played football and know what they are doing. Never rated Ross as Boss and a mystery to me as to how he remained in the job for so long. Jobi/Danny was a good partnership in waiting, so they have got their chance now to show what they can do so hope it works out well for them and if so, then of course good for Leyton Orient. Perhaps if Cisse is unavailable through injury next game, then Hector can come in to replace his and will be a big blow if in form Wilkinson misses our next game and if he does miss out, then I am guessing that Jobi or Dennis will come in to replace him.
Spot on Sid,as a pro footballer who would you take more notice of,someone who’s never hardly played or someone who’s been there done it at the highest level and has a lot of experience. Why did Embleton stay so long? Jobs for the boys I’m afraid to say yet again.
Yeah, good job those Arsenal players paid no attention to Arsene Wenger when he was winning all those trophies and the Porto, Chelsea and Internazionale players didn't bother listening to Mourinho because he'd played fewer than 100 games at a low standard.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:33 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
I’ve played 1 less game than Ross and I know f*** loads about football management!
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:36 pm
by MungOgogo
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:55 pm
MungOgogo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:32 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:19 pm
Wouldn't change a winning side but it's a nice problem to have. If we could get Akinola in summer as primarily CB, renewing Happe and Turley that's your CBs sorted.
Thompson will be fit in the summer . He & Turley will be injured at some point next season . We can dream about Tunji signing full time at best . Never say Never though .
I think Thompson has broken his ankle ? If so, than a bad injury to get over, time will tell if he does make a full recovery, hopefully he will. Thompson is ( judging by his past injury record ) a rather injury prone player so do not place too much on him playing next season without missing some games along the way.
Lee Harvey broke his ankle & was back to finish a season for us, he later signed for
Nottingham Forest, then Played over 100 games for Brentford .
Thompson is as injury prone as Turley . Next season is 5 months away .
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:38 pm
by MungOgogo
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:29 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:05 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:34 pm
Well as for Ross, his tactics and selections, well the difference is that now we have people in charge who have played football and know what they are doing. Never rated Ross as Boss and a mystery to me as to how he remained in the job for so long. Jobi/Danny was a good partnership in waiting, so they have got their chance now to show what they can do so hope it works out well for them and if so, then of course good for Leyton Orient. Perhaps if Cisse is unavailable through injury next game, then Hector can come in to replace his and will be a big blow if in form Wilkinson misses our next game and if he does miss out, then I am guessing that Jobi or Dennis will come in to replace him.
Spot on Sid,as a pro footballer who would you take more notice of,someone who’s never hardly played or someone who’s been there done it at the highest level and has a lot of experience. Why did Embleton stay so long? Jobs for the boys I’m afraid to say yet again.
You know it, I know it !
I started playing football when I was around 7 years old, was a good footballer but after a bad injury in my early twenties, the flame burned inside me to form my own team, managed them to much success and they got better as we moved onto higher leagues and ended up as a team playing for me that had ex pros and an England amateur youth international who had been on the books of Crystal Palace, got married and after ten years got a job where i was very involved especially at week ends so I passed my team onto others to run, enough said.
Gilso formed Leyton Orient supporters football team didnt he ?
Don't forget to mention the Cowley brothers as well
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:53 pm
by moonwalk19
EliotNes wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:28 pm
About right above, except I thought Clay & Cisse worked their socks off in midfield. They were here, there and everywhere as the expression goes and broke up Oldham's midfield advances and attacks. I don't think it was a coincidence that Oldham scored straight after Cisse was subbed.
I thought Clay and Cisse gave their middle of park players too much room . Many times when they passed inside their midfield were allowed to run at us. Cisse does not get stuck in enough and offen his passing is wayward. Clay does a lot of running but should have given Akinola more help in dealing with their tricky winger.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:03 pm
by moonwalk19
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:59 pm
Vigoroux - 6 - not much to do, no chance for the goal
Akinola - 6 - our best option for now but still a position to improve
Turley - 8 - immense, so glad he's back in the side
Happe - 7 - solid enough
Widdowson - 6 - had a more difficult second half but prefer him being at LB
Cissé - 7 - Jobi seemed to have solved the conundrum today, looked a lot more lively before going off with injury
Clay - 6 - put in a shift but thought he struggled second half
Kemp - 8 - MOTM performance, great goal
Brophy - 7 - a constant threat, puts the LB vs attacking argument to bed
Wilkinson - 7 - great finish for the goal
Johnson - 6 - worked hard for the team but doesn't look like scoring at the moment
McAnuff - 6 - probably didn't want to have play today, got a bit caught for their goal
Dennis - 6 - saw the game out
Abrahams - 6 - as per Dennis
McAnuff (Manager) - 7 - got us playing with attacking football today, who needs possession when you're peppering the opposition goal and scoring
Also good to see Dean Cox on the panel, more of that please.
Johnson is a well marked man . I think he. Needs someone like Harrold beside him for lay offs. He is not a good header of the ball and when he plays alone he is easy to mark out of the game. He is a poacher in the box but does not get the service he deserves. That said he works hard with little reward.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:16 am
by Sid Bishop
moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:03 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:59 pm
Vigoroux - 6 - not much to do, no chance for the goal
Akinola - 6 - our best option for now but still a position to improve
Turley - 8 - immense, so glad he's back in the side
Happe - 7 - solid enough
Widdowson - 6 - had a more difficult second half but prefer him being at LB
Cissé - 7 - Jobi seemed to have solved the conundrum today, looked a lot more lively before going off with injury
Clay - 6 - put in a shift but thought he struggled second half
Kemp - 8 - MOTM performance, great goal
Brophy - 7 - a constant threat, puts the LB vs attacking argument to bed
Wilkinson - 7 - great finish for the goal
Johnson - 6 - worked hard for the team but doesn't look like scoring at the moment
McAnuff - 6 - probably didn't want to have play today, got a bit caught for their goal
Dennis - 6 - saw the game out
Abrahams - 6 - as per Dennis
McAnuff (Manager) - 7 - got us playing with attacking football today, who needs possession when you're peppering the opposition goal and scoring
Also good to see Dean Cox on the panel, more of that please.
Johnson is a well marked man . I think he. Needs someone like Harrold beside him for lay offs. He is not a good header of the ball and when he plays alone he is easy to mark out of the game. He is a poacher in the box but does not get the service he deserves. That said he works hard with little reward.
Completely agree about your comment as to how to get the best out of Danny Johnson.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:20 am
by Sid Bishop
MungOgogo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:38 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:29 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:05 pm
Spot on Sid,as a pro footballer who would you take more notice of,someone who’s never hardly played or someone who’s been there done it at the highest level and has a lot of experience. Why did Embleton stay so long? Jobs for the boys I’m afraid to say yet again.
You know it, I know it !
I started playing football when I was around 7 years old, was a good footballer but after a bad injury in my early twenties, the flame burned inside me to form my own team, managed them to much success and they got better as we moved onto higher leagues and ended up as a team playing for me that had ex pros and an England amateur youth international who had been on the books of Crystal Palace, got married and after ten years got a job where i was very involved especially at week ends so I passed my team onto others to run, enough said.
Gilso formed Leyton Orient supporters football team didnt he ?
Don't forget to mention the Cowley brothers as well
And then ?
As to Ross, well he, along with others at the club, did a good job in steadying the ship after Justin's tragic death but was never really suited to be the man in charge. It did not work out, so time to move on now.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:28 am
by PKM
Re DJ, thought he worked hard yesterday.
It was his harassment of the defender that led to the defender doing the bad back pass that led to Wilko’s goal, something that doesn’t seem to have been picked up.
Agree re Dan Kemp, he’s looking a real find now he’s settled in.
A quality player, well done O’s/ML on signing him.
Be good to have Hector available for Easter.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:47 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:53 pm
EliotNes wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:28 pm
About right above, except I thought Clay & Cisse worked their socks off in midfield. They were here, there and everywhere as the expression goes and broke up Oldham's midfield advances and attacks. I don't think it was a coincidence that Oldham scored straight after Cisse was subbed.
I thought Clay and Cisse gave their middle of park players too much room . Many times when they passed inside their midfield were allowed to run at us. Cisse does not get stuck in enough and offen his passing is wayward. Clay does a lot of running but should have given Akinola more help in dealing with their tricky winger.
Looks like we’re set up to press higher. Both goals yesterday came from capitalising on their errors. We also went close when Clay robbed their bloke in their own half then set DJ away.
The downside of that is sometimes the full backs will be left one on one, or the midfield will be outnumbered. It’s a gamble that’s paying off at the moment (Exeter excluded).
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:54 am
by Wally Banter
Yep. When they broke through our initial high press, we looked pretty exposed. But the gamble proved to be worth it.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:00 pm
by Dohnut
Except that despite us being exposed, as suggested, they only managed a couple of shots on target. Akinola apart, who had a torrid first half, i thought we defended well and even Wilko got back to help out at times.
Up front I though we looked more dangerous in open play than we have for much of the season. The extended highlights show just how well their keeper played. Don’t recall LV having too much to do throughout the 90.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:57 pm
by MungOgogo
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:20 am
It did not work out, so time to move on now.
So maybe STOP bringing it up !
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:56 pm
by Sid Bishop
MungOgogo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:57 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:20 am
It did not work out, so time to move on now.
So maybe STOP bringing it up !
Like others on this forum, I take no instructions from anyone as to what to say and what not to say and likewise I would never instruct anyone else as to what they should or shouldn't write in their comments.
Seems though like some of the Ross cheer leaders on here took it hard to accept him going and are still fighting his cause.
Lastly I notice your assumed name only joined a few weeks ago yet already pitching in like a long time regular.............say no more !
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:31 pm
by Monkey Boy
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:56 pm
MungOgogo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:57 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:20 am
It did not work out, so time to move on now.
So maybe STOP bringing it up !
Like others on this forum, I take no instructions from anyone as to what to say and what not to say and likewise I would never instruct anyone else as to what they should or shouldn't write in their comments.
Seems though like some of the Ross cheer leaders on here took it hard to accept him going and are still fighting his cause.
Lastly I notice your assumed name only joined a few weeks ago yet already pitching in like a long time regular.............say no more !
Personally Sid I wouldn’t rise to it, I’ve only been on here a short while and already worked out that there are a few on here that would argue with a corpse in a phone box just for a reaction, sure we are all have a point of view but some just take it to the next level for what ever reason. We are all entitled to our opinion and right or wrong. I’m with you on Ross but I appreciate that others liked him.
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:40 pm
by Orientnil
Three wins in a row! 'Think we deserved the points but only just... could've drawn or lost more than once. What we have now is a very rare commodity at Orient - a manager who has his share of luck. Ain't it grand?
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:52 pm
by MungOgogo
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:31 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:56 pm
MungOgogo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:57 pm
So maybe STOP bringing it up !
Like others on this forum, I take no instructions from anyone as to what to say and what not to say and likewise I would never instruct anyone else as to what they should or shouldn't write in their comments.
Seems though like some of the Ross cheer leaders on here took it hard to accept him going and are still fighting his cause.
Lastly I notice your assumed name only joined a few weeks ago yet already pitching in like a long time regular.............say no more !
Personally Sid I wouldn’t rise to it, I’ve only been on here a short while and already worked out that there are a few on here that would argue with a corpse in a phone box just for a reaction, sure we are all have a point of view but some just take it to the next level for what ever reason. We are all entitled to our opinion and right or wrong. I’m with you on Ross but I appreciate that others liked him.
No arguments from me .
Just pointing out that Sid was mentioning about Ross & Jobi & then later says time to move on .
Ross is gone a while now & yet is still part of the conversation . How is that moving on .
The King is Dead , Long Live the King !
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:36 am
by Sid Bishop
MungOgogo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:52 pm
Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:31 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:56 pm
Like others on this forum, I take no instructions from anyone as to what to say and what not to say and likewise I would never instruct anyone else as to what they should or shouldn't write in their comments.
Seems though like some of the Ross cheer leaders on here took it hard to accept him going and are still fighting his cause.
Lastly I notice your assumed name only joined a few weeks ago yet already pitching in like a long time regular.............say no more !
Personally Sid I wouldn’t rise to it, I’ve only been on here a short while and already worked out that there are a few on here that would argue with a corpse in a phone box just for a reaction, sure we are all have a point of view but some just take it to the next level for what ever reason. We are all entitled to our opinion and right or wrong. I’m with you on Ross but I appreciate that others liked him.
No arguments from me .
Just pointing out that Sid was mentioning about Ross & Jobi & then later says time to move on .
Ross is gone a while now & yet is still part of the conversation . How is that moving on .
The King is Dead , Long Live the King !
Glad that you once considered Ross as your King !
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:39 am
by Sid Bishop
Orientnil wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:40 pm
Three wins in a row! 'Think we deserved the points but only just... could've drawn or lost more than once. What we have now is a very rare commodity at Orient - a manager who has his share of luck. Ain't it grand?
Jobi also knows how to set a team up and make the best of the players available to him in the squad.
Jobi and Danny Senda are a good team and let us hope the better form ( and luck ! ) continues !
Re: Ratings.
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:57 am
by Monkey Boy
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:39 am
Orientnil wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:40 pm
Three wins in a row! 'Think we deserved the points but only just... could've drawn or lost more than once. What we have now is a very rare commodity at Orient - a manager who has his share of luck. Ain't it grand?
Jobi also knows how to set a team up and make the best of the players available to him in the squad.
Jobi and Danny Senda are a good team and let us hope the better form ( and luck ! ) continues !
Yes agreed he’s been quite cleaver considering this team can only play 433 apparently
