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Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:12 pm**

KC & sunshine band wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:58 pm saw him in Leyton high street today clutching a box of straws

Where the f*ck is Leyton High Street ?

Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:15 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:12 pm
KC & sunshine band wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:58 pm saw him in Leyton high street today clutching a box of straws
Where the f*ck is Leyton High Street ?

Its next to the high road were they sell boxes of straws

Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:17 pm**

KC & sunshine band wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:15 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:12 pm
KC & sunshine band wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:58 pm saw him in Leyton high street today clutching a box of straws
Where the f*ck is Leyton High Street ?
Its next to the high road were they sell boxes of straws

This world is f*cked up
Boxes instead of bales
Streets instead of roads
its madness i tell thee madness !!

Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:20 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:17 pm
KC & sunshine band wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:15 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:12 pm

Where the f*ck is Leyton High Street ?
Its next to the high road were they sell boxes of straws
This world is f*cked up
Boxes instead of bales
Streets instead of roads
its madness i tell thee madness !!

made me laff

Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:27 pm**

KC & sunshine band wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:20 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:17 pm
KC & sunshine band wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:15 pm

Its next to the high road were they sell boxes of straws
This world is f*cked up
Boxes instead of bales
Streets instead of roads
its madness i tell thee madness !!
made me laff

I've just booked an appt' with a physiotherapissed
What with covid stress & the other 2 examples its sent me over the edge !!!

Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:31 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:27 pm
KC & sunshine band wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:20 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:17 pm

This world is f*cked up
Boxes instead of bales
Streets instead of roads
its madness i tell thee madness !!
made me laff

I've just booked an appt' with a physiotherapissed
What with covid stress & the other 2 examples its sent me over the edge !!!

Take care and stay safe mate

Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:20 pm**

BTW, Judd, Clay and Sotiriou are injured

Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:04 pm**

PutneyO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:20 pm BTW, Judd, Clay and Sotiriou are injured

Tuffers said judds down the disco on his own due to it being closed and an all that.

Posted: **Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:15 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:04 pm
PutneyO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:20 pm BTW, Judd, Clay and Sotiriou are injured
Tuffers said judds down the disco on his own due to it being closed and an all that.

LIES LIES LIES

I SAID HE WAS OUTSIDE !!

Posted: **Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:54 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:01 am Maybe Sid can enlighten us to the new Boss formation, I’ve never seen it played, but Sid might have.

2-3-5

Our forwards will rip the opposition a new one and hopefully our 2 defenders will resist all attacks for 90 mins which is entirely possible having kept at least one clean sheet this season. With 5 forwards attack will be our best form of defence.

From around the age of 16 years old, I started to read many books, magazines etc about the various football tactics, coaching, formations etc.
Here is an informative piece of information I just found on the internet, part of which is shown below the link.
I used a kind of 5-4--1 formation once, it was forced on by circumstances and tactics to try to blunt the opposition that we were playing in a cup replay game. Basically we used one sweeper tidying up behind a back four, two central midfielders along with two wing backs with one very fast centre forward pushed up down the centre. Tactics were to play a defensive game, draw the other team into our own half, outnumbered them in defence and midfield, keep possession of the ball as much as possible and play quick break out counter attacking football along with deep in our own half passes played over the top of their defence for our wingbacks and centre forward to run onto. It worked out well on the day and we won 4-1 with our lone striker scoring all of the 4 goals that our team scored.

How Football Formations Have Changed Over Time https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/art ... ormations/

Major Football Lineup Changes
Dominant Formations Years Major Influence
1-1-8, 1-2-7, 2-2-6 1860's - 1880's Rugby
2-3-5 1880's - 1925 Scottish Passing Game
3-3-4 1925 - 1950's Offside
4-2-4, 4-3-3 1950's - 1970's Countering 3-3-4
4-4-2, 5-4-1 1970's - 1990's Italian Defensive Game
3-5-2, 5-3-2 1990's - 2000's In Game Formation Changes
Variable Formations 2000's - Present Day Fluid Formations Changing On Situation

Posted: **Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:19 pm**

heard a thud
and R oss chin hit the floor

Posted: **Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:14 pm**

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:54 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:01 am Maybe Sid can enlighten us to the new Boss formation, I’ve never seen it played, but Sid might have.

2-3-5

Our forwards will rip the opposition a new one and hopefully our 2 defenders will resist all attacks for 90 mins which is entirely possible having kept at least one clean sheet this season. With 5 forwards attack will be our best form of defence.
From around the age of 16 years old, I started to read many books, magazines etc about the various football tactics, coaching, formations etc.
Here is an informative piece of information I just found on the internet, part of which is shown below the link.
I used a kind of 5-4--1 formation once, it was forced on by circumstances and tactics to try to blunt the opposition that we were playing in a cup replay game. Basically we used one sweeper tidying up behind a back four, two central midfielders along with two wing backs with one very fast centre forward pushed up down the centre. Tactics were to play a defensive game, draw the other team into our own half, outnumbered them in defence and midfield, keep possession of the ball as much as possible and play quick break out counter attacking football along with deep in our own half passes played over the top of their defence for our wingbacks and centre forward to run onto. It worked out well on the day and we won 4-1 with our lone striker scoring all of the 4 goals that our team scored.

How Football Formations Have Changed Over Time https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/art ... ormations/

Major Football Lineup Changes
Dominant Formations Years Major Influence
1-1-8, 1-2-7, 2-2-6 1860's - 1880's Rugby
2-3-5 1880's - 1925 Scottish Passing Game
3-3-4 1925 - 1950's Offside
4-2-4, 4-3-3 1950's - 1970's Countering 3-3-4
4-4-2, 5-4-1 1970's - 1990's Italian Defensive Game
3-5-2, 5-3-2 1990's - 2000's In Game Formation Changes
Variable Formations 2000's - Present Day Fluid Formations Changing On Situation

Good article sid. You learn something every day. The 2-3-5 was pioneered by the Scots and plenty of their players came down to England to enhance and show them how to do it. I never knew that. It was also the prime tactic for a very long time.

Posted: **Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:34 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:14 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:54 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:01 am Maybe Sid can enlighten us to the new Boss formation, I’ve never seen it played, but Sid might have.

2-3-5

Our forwards will rip the opposition a new one and hopefully our 2 defenders will resist all attacks for 90 mins which is entirely possible having kept at least one clean sheet this season. With 5 forwards attack will be our best form of defence.
From around the age of 16 years old, I started to read many books, magazines etc about the various football tactics, coaching, formations etc.
Here is an informative piece of information I just found on the internet, part of which is shown below the link.
I used a kind of 5-4--1 formation once, it was forced on by circumstances and tactics to try to blunt the opposition that we were playing in a cup replay game. Basically we used one sweeper tidying up behind a back four, two central midfielders along with two wing backs with one very fast centre forward pushed up down the centre. Tactics were to play a defensive game, draw the other team into our own half, outnumbered them in defence and midfield, keep possession of the ball as much as possible and play quick break out counter attacking football along with deep in our own half passes played over the top of their defence for our wingbacks and centre forward to run onto. It worked out well on the day and we won 4-1 with our lone striker scoring all of the 4 goals that our team scored.

How Football Formations Have Changed Over Time https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/art ... ormations/

Major Football Lineup Changes
Dominant Formations Years Major Influence
1-1-8, 1-2-7, 2-2-6 1860's - 1880's Rugby
2-3-5 1880's - 1925 Scottish Passing Game
3-3-4 1925 - 1950's Offside
4-2-4, 4-3-3 1950's - 1970's Countering 3-3-4
4-4-2, 5-4-1 1970's - 1990's Italian Defensive Game
3-5-2, 5-3-2 1990's - 2000's In Game Formation Changes
Variable Formations 2000's - Present Day Fluid Formations Changing On Situation
Good article sid. You learn something every day. The 2-3-5 was pioneered by the Scots and plenty of their players came down to England to enhance and show them how to do it. I never knew that. It was also the prime tactic for a very long time.

So I as manager ( played in centre midfield as well in that game ) came up with a one off sort of 5-4-1 formation for that game, I explained to the players before the game about their roles and what I expected from them ( I also talked/shouted non stop to the players throughout the game to keep them on their toes ! ) Strange that we sorted this out and played this one off system so well and yet RE so lacking in getting his ideas over to pro footballers and he seems unable of being able to think outside the box. All those coaching badges yet so lacking in ideas and adapting to changes in games as they happen and evolve, sometimes just seems like R-oss seems to freeze like a rabbit caught in a cars headlights.

Posted: **Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:48 pm**

Juddy ain't injured can confirm I saw him at Holland and Barrett he's been back this week training with the team. As for clay and sotiriou, he couldn't confirm so maybe next weekend could be a switch around. And I think we play best as 4-4-2 whenever we go 5-3-2 we are always exposed down the wings. If we go into playing this position we need to force high pressure to keep them in there half but that means not our lump it games.

Posted: **Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:51 pm**

Bobby dazzla wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:48 pm Juddy ain't injured can confirm I saw him at Holland and Barrett he's been back this week training with the team. As for clay and sotiriou, he couldn't confirm so maybe next weekend could be a switch around. And I think we play best as 4-4-2 whenever we go 5-3-2 we are always exposed down the wings. If we go into playing this position we need to force high pressure to keep them in there half but that means not our lump it games.

4-4-2 is an effective formation and the players are used to playing it.
Hope Judd is back in the reckoning soon.

Posted: **Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:06 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:14 pm
Good article sid. You learn something every day. The 2-3-5 was pioneered by the Scots and plenty of their players came down to England to enhance and show them how to do it. I never knew that. It was also the prime tactic for a very long time.

Good bit of football history here, 31 March 1928 the day the Scottish Wembley Wizards tamed England 5-1 !

The Wembley Wizards is a nickname for the Scotland national football team who defeated England 5–1 at Wembley in the 1928 British Home Championship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wembley_Wizards

Posted: **Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:10 am**

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:14 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:54 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:01 am Maybe Sid can enlighten us to the new Boss formation, I’ve never seen it played, but Sid might have.

2-3-5

Our forwards will rip the opposition a new one and hopefully our 2 defenders will resist all attacks for 90 mins which is entirely possible having kept at least one clean sheet this season. With 5 forwards attack will be our best form of defence.
From around the age of 16 years old, I started to read many books, magazines etc about the various football tactics, coaching, formations etc.
Here is an informative piece of information I just found on the internet, part of which is shown below the link.
I used a kind of 5-4--1 formation once, it was forced on by circumstances and tactics to try to blunt the opposition that we were playing in a cup replay game. Basically we used one sweeper tidying up behind a back four, two central midfielders along with two wing backs with one very fast centre forward pushed up down the centre. Tactics were to play a defensive game, draw the other team into our own half, outnumbered them in defence and midfield, keep possession of the ball as much as possible and play quick break out counter attacking football along with deep in our own half passes played over the top of their defence for our wingbacks and centre forward to run onto. It worked out well on the day and we won 4-1 with our lone striker scoring all of the 4 goals that our team scored.

How Football Formations Have Changed Over Time https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/art ... ormations/

Major Football Lineup Changes
Dominant Formations Years Major Influence
1-1-8, 1-2-7, 2-2-6 1860's - 1880's Rugby
2-3-5 1880's - 1925 Scottish Passing Game
3-3-4 1925 - 1950's Offside
4-2-4, 4-3-3 1950's - 1970's Countering 3-3-4
4-4-2, 5-4-1 1970's - 1990's Italian Defensive Game
3-5-2, 5-3-2 1990's - 2000's In Game Formation Changes
Variable Formations 2000's - Present Day Fluid Formations Changing On Situation
Good article sid. You learn something every day. The 2-3-5 was pioneered by the Scots and plenty of their players came down to England to enhance and show them how to do it. I never knew that. It was also the prime tactic for a very long time.

I was just wondering, how many tournaments have we won playing that formation . ?

Posted: **Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:24 am**

Bobby dazzla wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:48 pm Juddy ain't injured can confirm I saw him at Holland and Barrett he's been back this week training with the team. As for clay and sotiriou, he couldn't confirm so maybe next weekend could be a switch around. And I think we play best as 4-4-2 whenever we go 5-3-2 we are always exposed down the wings. If we go into playing this position we need to force high pressure to keep them in there half but that means not our lump it games.

He will need some games and training with the team so as to be considered again. Good news he’s fit though.

Posted: **Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:49 am**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:10 am
How Football Formations Have Changed Over Time https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/art ... ormations/

Major Football Lineup Changes
Dominant Formations Years Major Influence
1-1-8, 1-2-7, 2-2-6 1860's - 1880's Rugby
2-3-5 1880's - 1925 Scottish Passing Game
3-3-4 1925 - 1950's Offside
4-2-4, 4-3-3 1950's - 1970's Countering 3-3-4
4-4-2, 5-4-1 1970's - 1990's Italian Defensive Game
3-5-2, 5-3-2 1990's - 2000's In Game Formation Changes
Variable Formations 2000's - Present Day Fluid Formations Changing On Situation

Good article sid. You learn something every day. The 2-3-5 was pioneered by the Scots and plenty of their players came down to England to enhance and show them how to do it. I never knew that. It was also the prime tactic for a very long time.
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I was just wondering, how many tournaments have we won playing that formation . ?
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England won the 1966 World cup using a formation based on 4-3-3.

Posted: **Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:08 am**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:36 pm Really enjoyed the OP
Cant beat a bit of sarcasm
Who was it who said Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit..Oscar Wilde?......but whoever said it, he was wrong lol

COYOs - you missed out the next part - but the highest form of intellect.

Also enjoyed the OP, we need a bit of cheering up.

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