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If that's the case, then Orient would be in serious trouble as that is a wilfull refusal to fulfill a league fixture. You can't refuse to play a league game because of not being able to field your strongest X1
I'm sure discussions would be had rather than us (Orient) just wilfully refusing to play.
If.it is a " FACT "tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:29 pm
Quite clearly some people seem unable to see the simple fact that Orient were unable to host the fixture on Tuesday night. That is a fact. It is not a matter of blame, it is a simple factual issue- did Orient fulfill the fixture or not.
Rule 5 is not about blame, its a simple factual situation
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE THIS STOP???spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:37 pmIf.it is a " FACT "tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:29 pm
Quite clearly some people seem unable to see the simple fact that Orient were unable to host the fixture on Tuesday night. That is a fact. It is not a matter of blame, it is a simple factual issue- did Orient fulfill the fixture or not.
Rule 5 is not about blame, its a simple factual situation
Whay have the EFL NOT annouced LOFC are out of the competition due to not being able to field a
team or host the game ?
At this stage it is a fact that Orient did not fulfill the fixture on Tuesday night- or are you disputing that and are saying they did fulfill the fixture on tuesday night?
Sorry, I don't follow that logic at all. It's the schools that would prevent the O's training at their grounds - for obvious reasons. This has absolutely no bearing on whether the O's had a team to play Spurs or not.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:18 pmIf there's covid in the club that prevents them from using a 3g pitch in a school field, then they don't have a squad to play Spurs. Unless they were willing to risk the health of the opposition for a bit of money of course.BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:06 pmTeam fit to play, or not, is irrelevant to my point though isn't it. There is covid in the club so what school is going to allow them to use their facilities?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:43 pm
Really? I thought they had a team fit and able to play against Spurs. Are they covid ridden or not?
Spurs were able to fulfill the game. Its Orient who could not comply with their requirements to host the game.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:40 pm The game did not take place. Neither team fulfilled it.
Of course you don't follow it. The team wouldn't go anywhere near buildings, they would turn up ready to train and then drive home straight after. They have a football pitch completely separate from the school, the other side of the train tracks. Orient said they had a team that were covid free and able to play. If that's the case, the school would have no issue letting Orient use their facilities again.BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:39 pmSorry, I don't follow that logic at all. It's the schools that would prevent the O's training at their grounds - for obvious reasons. This has absolutely no bearing on whether the O's had a team to play Spurs or not.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:18 pmIf there's covid in the club that prevents them from using a 3g pitch in a school field, then they don't have a squad to play Spurs. Unless they were willing to risk the health of the opposition for a bit of money of course.
Prove it.spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:43 pmSpurs were able to fulfill the game. Its Orient who could not comply with their requirements to host the game.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:40 pm The game did not take place. Neither team fulfilled it.
Well that's just BS and you know it. You have no idea if the school - specifically Roding Valley - would allow the O's to train there. Given the precautions that schools are taking, and rightly so, it would be insane of them to allow a club where multiple players have covid to train there. We both know that if a Roding Valley pupil came down with covid after the O's had trained there then there would be hell to pay and lawsuits flying around. Blimey, there's reaching and there's really reaching to try (and fail) to prove a point.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:44 pmOf course you don't follow it. The team wouldn't go anywhere near buildings, they would turn up ready to train and then drive home straight after. They have a football pitch completely separate from the school, the other side of the train tracks. Orient said they had a team that were covid free and able to play. If that's the case, the school would have no issue letting Orient use their facilities again.BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:39 pmSorry, I don't follow that logic at all. It's the schools that would prevent the O's training at their grounds - for obvious reasons. This has absolutely no bearing on whether the O's had a team to play Spurs or not.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:18 pm
If there's covid in the club that prevents them from using a 3g pitch in a school field, then they don't have a squad to play Spurs. Unless they were willing to risk the health of the opposition for a bit of money of course.
If the same players that were medically fit to play against Spurs on Tuesday to secure £150k, then they're medically fit to play on Saturday.
I think you need a mirror when and some glasses when it comes to seeing the simple facts. Language and using facts and not rhetoric is everything in your industry so you should understand where you've gone wrong.spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:23 pmI said Orient didn't field a team or have a venue so couldn't host the gameApple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:03 pm1) You said we couldn't field a team. the chairman said we could - you were wrong and made it up. Fact. Post where it says we couldn't field a team.spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:42 pm
I have not made anything up.
The simple fact is Orient were unable to fulfill the fixture on Tuesday night. There is no way of avoiding this absolute fact
And if Orient had a team on tuesday night, why would there be a need to call Saturday's match off? Its a bit of a puzzler unless of course.....I have never said it is off2) Where is it that says Saturdays match is off please?
Quite clearly some people seem unable to see the simple fact that Orient were unable to host the fixture on Tuesday night. That is a fact. It is not a matter of blame, it is a simple factual issue- did Orient fulfill the fixture or not.
Rule 5 is not about blame, its a simple factual situation
spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:37 pmIf.it is a " FACT "tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:29 pm
Quite clearly some people seem unable to see the simple fact that Orient were unable to host the fixture on Tuesday night. That is a fact. It is not a matter of blame, it is a simple factual issue- did Orient fulfill the fixture or not.
Rule 5 is not about blame, its a simple factual situation
Why have the EFL NOT annouced LOFC are out of the competition due to not being able to field a
team or host the game ?
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:00 pmI think you need a mirror when and some glasses when it comes to seeing the simple facts. Language and using facts and not rhetoric is everything in your industry so you should understand where you've gone wrong.spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:23 pmI said Orient didn't field a team or have a venue so couldn't host the gameApple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:03 pm
1) You said we couldn't field a team. the chairman said we could - you were wrong and made it up. Fact. Post where it says we couldn't field a team.I have never said it is off2) Where is it that says Saturdays match is off please?
Quite clearly some people seem unable to see the simple fact that Orient were unable to host the fixture on Tuesday night. That is a fact. It is not a matter of blame, it is a simple factual issue- did Orient fulfill the fixture or not.
Rule 5 is not about blame, its a simple factual situation
Stop making stuff up to suit your argument and stick to the FACTs please, its embarrassing. Back track city.
Incredible.BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:54 pmWell that's just BS and you know it. You have no idea if the school - specifically Roding Valley - would allow the O's to train there. Given the precautions that schools are taking, and rightly so, it would be insane of them to allow a club where multiple players have covid to train there. We both know that if a Roding Valley pupil came down with covid after the O's had trained there then there would be hell to pay and lawsuits flying around. Blimey, there's reaching and there's really reaching to try (and fail) to prove a point.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:44 pmOf course you don't follow it. The team wouldn't go anywhere near buildings, they would turn up ready to train and then drive home straight after. They have a football pitch completely separate from the school, the other side of the train tracks. Orient said they had a team that were covid free and able to play. If that's the case, the school would have no issue letting Orient use their facilities again.
If the same players that were medically fit to play against Spurs on Tuesday to secure £150k, then they're medically fit to play on Saturday.
Orient know that too. Nigel was the one who was speaking about showing flexability when it came to the rulesspen666 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:07 pmApple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:00 pmI think you need a mirror when and some glasses when it comes to seeing the simple facts. Language and using facts and not rhetoric is everything in your industry so you should understand where you've gone wrong.spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:23 pm I said Orient didn't field a team or have a venue so couldn't host the game I have never said it is off
Quite clearly some people seem unable to see the simple fact that Orient were unable to host the fixture on Tuesday night. That is a fact. It is not a matter of blame, it is a simple factual issue- did Orient fulfill the fixture or not.
Rule 5 is not about blame, its a simple factual situation
Stop making stuff up to suit your argument and stick to the FACTs please, its embarrassing. Back track city.
I am sticking to facts.
The fact is Orient were unable to fulfill their fixture on Tuesday night following the positive Covid tests. Rule 5.1 covers the situation
You and I both know that I was responding to your false claim that the O's could use Roding Valley, or another similar location, to train. You were then drawing conclusions from that in which I have no interest as, frankly, you make no sense at all. One great thing about being retired is that I no longer have to engage with idiots, so I'm out of here. EnjoyBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:09 pmIncredible.BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:54 pmWell that's just BS and you know it. You have no idea if the school - specifically Roding Valley - would allow the O's to train there. Given the precautions that schools are taking, and rightly so, it would be insane of them to allow a club where multiple players have covid to train there. We both know that if a Roding Valley pupil came down with covid after the O's had trained there then there would be hell to pay and lawsuits flying around. Blimey, there's reaching and there's really reaching to try (and fail) to prove a point.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:44 pm
Of course you don't follow it. The team wouldn't go anywhere near buildings, they would turn up ready to train and then drive home straight after. They have a football pitch completely separate from the school, the other side of the train tracks. Orient said they had a team that were covid free and able to play. If that's the case, the school would have no issue letting Orient use their facilities again.
If the same players that were medically fit to play against Spurs on Tuesday to secure £150k, then they're medically fit to play on Saturday.
What part of Nigel saying Orient have a team of players that could have played against Spurs (obviously meaning they were covid free) do you not understand? If the players were covid free, there's no reason for them not to be allowed. Funny how you're so worried about a kid picking covid up from someone the club says is covid free but you don't care if it's a Spurs player
Roding Valley was just an example, there's plenty of places they could have trained at. I used that school as an example because I'd seen them train there in the past.
5.1 would mean the EFL have
It's not a false claim. The school rent out their pitches on the the weekend for local teams to play on. Orient could use one of them to train on during the week, seeing as they have a squad of players that are fit enough to play and no training ground to use. Your argument was that Orient were covid ridden, that's clearly not the case if they could get a team together for Spurs.BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:17 pmYou and I both know that I was responding to your false claim that the O's could use Roding Valley, or another similar location, to train. You were then drawing conclusions from that in which I have no interest as, frankly, you make no sense at all. One great thing about being retired is that I no longer have to engage with idiots, so I'm out of here. EnjoyBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:09 pmIncredible.BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:54 pm
Well that's just BS and you know it. You have no idea if the school - specifically Roding Valley - would allow the O's to train there. Given the precautions that schools are taking, and rightly so, it would be insane of them to allow a club where multiple players have covid to train there. We both know that if a Roding Valley pupil came down with covid after the O's had trained there then there would be hell to pay and lawsuits flying around. Blimey, there's reaching and there's really reaching to try (and fail) to prove a point.
What part of Nigel saying Orient have a team of players that could have played against Spurs (obviously meaning they were covid free) do you not understand? If the players were covid free, there's no reason for them not to be allowed. Funny how you're so worried about a kid picking covid up from someone the club says is covid free but you don't care if it's a Spurs player
Roding Valley was just an example, there's plenty of places they could have trained at. I used that school as an example because I'd seen them train there in the past.