Independent Leyton Orient Forum

West Side Story wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:20 am This outbreak of Covid 19, has brought to my attention, the selfishness of a few people. A good example is the cluster of cases at Brisbane Rd. Some people's first instinct, is, " my God the match is cancelled, what's gonna happen to the tie"? Surely we should show more concern for the people caught up in this cluster of a very nasty and infectious disease. Alright the players are young and fit; but some can still be badly affected. Some are of an ethnic origin, that seem to fare worse than others with this virus. Also I am sure that there are older workers and perhaps some with a similar waist line to my own, that work on the periphery of the club. Let us not forget how contagious this disease is. Then, there is the worry of the players who find they have the virus; what of their relatives, friends and other contacts?
I do think the clamour to have our favourite sport and entertainment back , has led to an unseemly haste in trying to restore normality. I look at some of the scenes at the FA Cup matches and despair. I think it is time for a bit of a re-think, and involve thinking of others and the awful consequences.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:02 pm Btw, I don’t think it’s selfish to be disappointed that the tie is off.
A lot of our lives are very mundane right now and the prospect of Orient playing a big London club doesn’t come around often, so it’s a natural reaction

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pm We are a country run by a Tory government, why would or should you expect the people in that country to be any different.

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pm We are a country run by a Tory government, why would or should you expect the people in that country to be any different.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:09 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pm We are a country run by a Tory government, why would or should you expect the people in that country to be any different.

I honestly don't think that the party in government makes any difference to how individuals behave and their attitudes.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:12 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:09 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pm We are a country run by a Tory government, why would or should you expect the people in that country to be any different.

I honestly don't think that the party in government makes any difference to how individuals behave and their attitudes.

Not even in Germany in the 30's?

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:09 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pm We are a country run by a Tory government, why would or should you expect the people in that country to be any different.

I honestly don't think that the party in government makes any difference to how individuals behave and their attitudes.

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:16 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:09 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pm We are a country run by a Tory government, why would or should you expect the people in that country to be any different.

I honestly don't think that the party in government makes any difference to how individuals behave and their attitudes.

It most certainly does when they set the example, its basic learnt behaviour. It sounds far fetched but a caring and understanding government would lead to a similar society.

Conservatism by definition is rooted in looking after no.1

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:18 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:16 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:09 pm

I honestly don't think that the party in government makes any difference to how individuals behave and their attitudes.

It most certainly does when they set the example, its basic learnt behaviour. It sounds far fetched but a caring and understanding government would lead to a similar society.

Conservatism by definition is rooted in looking after no.1

What a load of cobblers? Were people any different when Blair was leading the country? Not in my experience.
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Who's talking about Blair's labour. There we go again, the Tory answer to all, "well they couldn't do any better"

We're talking about in relation to selfishness.

Blair's labour was just about more Tory than this current lot in charge are!

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:15 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:12 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:09 pm

I honestly don't think that the party in government makes any difference to how individuals behave and their attitudes.

Not even in Germany in the 30's?

Dont know mate I wasnt around then. You tell me.

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:21 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:18 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:16 pm

It most certainly does when they set the example, its basic learnt behaviour. It sounds far fetched but a caring and understanding government would lead to a similar society.

Conservatism by definition is rooted in looking after no.1

What a load of cobblers? Were people any different when Blair was leading the country? Not in my experience.

Who's talking about Blair's labour. There we go again, the Tory answer to all, "well they couldn't do any better"

We're talking about in relation to selfishness.

Blair's labour was just about more Tory than this current lot in charge are!

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:28 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:15 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:12 pm

Not even in Germany in the 30's?

Dont know mate I wasnt around then. You tell me.

I've not been Boardin' for a bit and it slipped my mind that you are an IMBECILE. My apologies I won't trouble your feeble mind again.

RedO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:32 pm

JimbO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:57 am

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 am I feel as a nation we have become more selfish, and number 1 is all that matters.
Even on these boards, many comments over the last few months have shown a real selfish streak.
The way some people are quite happy putting others at risk from covid, by their actions etc
Twice, I've asked people in supermarkets, who weren't wearing a mask, why they weren't, and both times I was told to f*** off.
We are in such different times at the moment, yet so many act as if nothings amiss

Persoanlly think that their should be someone on the door of supermarkets asking people to wear masks.

Their should also be an official exemption card issued by the government (doesn't have to say what your problem is) issued.

I know people don't like it but it would solve a lot of problems.

If you can't wear a mask, make them wear one of the face visor things. Problem sorted.

‘Visor things’ waste of time according to news reports today as germs escape.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:39 pm Germany in the 30's? Pffft thats a wet lefty nightmare for old Ornchurch.

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:16 pm .....

Conservatism by definition is rooted in looking after no.1

spen666 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:10 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:16 pm .....

Conservatism by definition is rooted in looking after no.1

Strangely enough the number of unemployed at the end of every Labour government has been higher than when they took power.

Looks like labour aren't helping the wider population


Vote Monster Raving Looney

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:51 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:10 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:16 pm .....

Conservatism by definition is rooted in looking after no.1

Strangely enough the number of unemployed at the end of every Labour government has been higher than when they took power.

Looks like labour aren't helping the wider population


Vote Monster Raving Looney

Are you standing?

spen666 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:04 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:51 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:10 pm

Strangely enough the number of unemployed at the end of every Labour government has been higher than when they took power.

Looks like labour aren't helping the wider population


Vote Monster Raving Looney

Are you standing?

No, sat on my office chair at present

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:19 pm

spen666 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:04 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:51 pm
Are you standing?

No, sat on my office chair at present

FFS! No wonder nobody Boards anymore.

spen666 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:10 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:16 pm .....

Conservatism by definition is rooted in looking after no.1

Strangely enough the number of unemployed at the end of every Labour government has been higher than when they took power.

Looks like labour aren't helping the wider population


Vote Monster Raving Looney

LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:24 pm We are all selfish. We put ourselves and our families first; wider family next and then friends - in that order and rightly so. What I think you mean is considerate. We are not considerate enough of other people's situation and I agree with that. There's a growing band of anti covid theorists who think its a control thing; there's the ignorant and there are the idiots. I am as healthy as a man can be in his mid 50's; I have a healthy family - both at a parental level and my offspring. We follow the rules, no matter how exasperating, because we are protecting others more than ourselves. We don't fraternise in pub's or public places, we don't have social gatherings at home. These are times when we have to minimise contact.

Please be considerate to others.