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It might be in the moral void that you inhabit but it doesn't work for me. Sorry.
I have a pretty low opinion of our politicians right now Max. Piss ups and breweries spring to mind. Worst bunch of party leaders in living memory in my opinion. Including the SNP. The lunatics really are running the asylum. I can’t see an reason why my opinion should be different.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:32 pmIt might be in the moral void that you inhabit but it doesn't work for me. Sorry.
I'm not sure you are right about Nicola. Her politics aren't my cup of tea but I do have a lot of respect for her abilities.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:37 pmI have a pretty low opinion of our politicians right now Max. p*ss ups and breweries spring to mind. Worst bunch of party leaders in living memory in my opinion. Including the SNP. The lunatics really are running the asylum. I can’t see an reason why my opinion should be different.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:32 pmIt might be in the moral void that you inhabit but it doesn't work for me. Sorry.
Locally she may be OK but wider seems a one trick pony. Well two. Both basically ignoring the results of referendums because she don’t like them.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:58 pmI'm not sure you are right about Nicola. Her politics aren't my cup of tea but I do have a lot of respect for her abilities.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:37 pmI have a pretty low opinion of our politicians right now Max. p*ss ups and breweries spring to mind. Worst bunch of party leaders in living memory in my opinion. Including the SNP. The lunatics really are running the asylum. I can’t see an reason why my opinion should be different.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:32 pm
It might be in the moral void that you inhabit but it doesn't work for me. Sorry.
It's a very weak argument because there is nothing to suggest the majority of MPs wished to propose a no confidence motion and they were not the ones who wanted to close down parliament.Milano wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:56 pm Fascinating stuff from the 'm'luds'. It seems to me that James Eadie's point that HM's opposition could have stopped the prorogation at any time by tabling a motion of no confidence in the government. That they chose not to do that, he claims, was their political decision and thus the supreme court should not intervene. Sounds like a strong position I'd say. I heard nothing in Lord Pannick's closing remarks to rebut it.
Looks a strong point to me too tbh.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:59 pmIt's a very weak argument because there is nothing to suggest the majority of MPs wished to propose a no confidence motion and they were not the ones who wanted to close down parliament.Milano wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:56 pm Fascinating stuff from the 'm'luds'. It seems to me that James Eadie's point that HM's opposition could have stopped the prorogation at any time by tabling a motion of no confidence in the government. That they chose not to do that, he claims, was their political decision and thus the supreme court should not intervene. Sounds like a strong position I'd say. I heard nothing in Lord Pannick's closing remarks to rebut it.
Whether or not a majority of MPs wanted a general election (via a N/C motion) is moot. lf they'd wanted to stop the prorogation they had the opportunity. If they'd prefer not to risk their status as MPs then stopping prorogation was clearly not that important ergo they are using the supreme court for political expedience. For that reason, l'd gamble that whatever complicated form of words the SC produce, it won't force a resumption of parliament. I suspect they'll dump the onus on Mr Speaker.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:59 pmMilano wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:56 pm Fascinating stuff from the 'm'luds'. It seems to me that James Eadie's point that HM's opposition could have stopped the prorogation at any time by tabling a motion of no confidence in the government. That they chose not to do that, he claims, was their political decision and thus the supreme court should not intervene. Sounds like a strong position I'd say. I heard nothing in Lord Pannick's closing remarks to rebut it.
It's a very weak argument because there is nothing to suggest the majority of MPs wished to propose a no confidence motion and they were not the ones who wanted to close down parliament.
Disagree you are putting the cart before the horse.Milano wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:41 pmWhether or not a majority of MPs wanted a general election (via a N/C motion) is moot. lf they'd wanted to stop the prorogation they had the opportunity. If they'd prefer not to risk their status as MPs then stopping prorogation was clearly not that important ergo they are using the supreme court for political expedience. For that reason, l'd gamble that whatever complicated form of words the SC produce, it won't force a resumption of parliament. I suspect they'll dump the onus on Mr Speaker.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:59 pmMilano wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:56 pm Fascinating stuff from the 'm'luds'. It seems to me that James Eadie's point that HM's opposition could have stopped the prorogation at any time by tabling a motion of no confidence in the government. That they chose not to do that, he claims, was their political decision and thus the supreme court should not intervene. Sounds like a strong position I'd say. I heard nothing in Lord Pannick's closing remarks to rebut it.
It's a very weak argument because there is nothing to suggest the majority of MPs wished to propose a no confidence motion and they were not the ones who wanted to close down parliament.
As a devout remainer, l won't be happy about it.
She's the leader of the Scottish National Party, the clue is in the name.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:33 pmLocally she may be OK but wider seems a one trick pony. Well two. Both basically ignoring the results of referendums because she don’t like them.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:58 pm
I'm not sure you are right about Nicola. Her politics aren't my cup of tea but I do have a lot of respect for her abilities.
You're trying too hard to make it seem like Boris is no worse than any other politician. Politicians lie so Boris is the norm is your stance. That's not the case at all as Boris has been caught out so often, and at a whole new level of lying, that he's on a different level. How do you know when Boris is lying?
How did that microphone magically appear to attach itself to his body?Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:13 amThe fella was there in his capacity as a father. He was perfectly entitled to tell Johnson of his experience at Whipps. The clown saying there was no press there was laughable?tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:21 pmShame he was a Labour activist & not just a random DadDisoriented wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:11 pm
Quite right too, although I enjoyed much more the impassioned savaging Johnson received from a father at Whipps Cross today.
Showed the clown up yet again for the liar he is.
Still prefer the
" Leave my town bloke "
Pure Class.
Fair enough, Boris is the only politician who misleads the people, lying. Righto. Not a debate worth exploring methinks.BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:12 pmYou're trying too hard to make it seem like Boris is no worse than any other politician. Politicians lie so Boris is the norm is your stance. That's not the case at all as Boris has been caught out so often, and at a whole new level of lying, that he's on a different level. How do you know when Boris is lying?
His lips are moving....
She is also a leader with broader responsibilities than the local councils.Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:08 pmShe's the leader of the Scottish National Party, the clue is in the name.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:33 pmLocally she may be OK but wider seems a one trick pony. Well two. Both basically ignoring the results of referendums because she don’t like them.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:58 pm
I'm not sure you are right about Nicola. Her politics aren't my cup of tea but I do have a lot of respect for her abilities.
heh.Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:08 pmShe's the leader of the Scottish National Party, the clue is in the name.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:33 pmLocally she may be OK but wider seems a one trick pony. Well two. Both basically ignoring the results of referendums because she don’t like them.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:58 pm
I'm not sure you are right about Nicola. Her politics aren't my cup of tea but I do have a lot of respect for her abilities.
As you well know that's not what I said. Of course some other politicians lie and mislead, as do some ex IT Directors. Boris, a proven liar, is a morally corrupt, self-serving liar of epic proportions and PM to us lucky plebs. You must be proud of him.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:17 pmFair enough, Boris is the only politician who misleads the people, lying. Righto. Not a debate worth exploring methinks.BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:12 pmYou're trying too hard to make it seem like Boris is no worse than any other politician. Politicians lie so Boris is the norm is your stance. That's not the case at all as Boris has been caught out so often, and at a whole new level of lying, that he's on a different level. How do you know when Boris is lying?
His lips are moving....
Anyone who commits a crime can be exhonerated, if it can be shown that someone could have prevented them from doing so?dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:12 pmLooks a strong point to me too tbh.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:59 pmIt's a very weak argument because there is nothing to suggest the majority of MPs wished to propose a no confidence motion and they were not the ones who wanted to close down parliament.Milano wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:56 pm Fascinating stuff from the 'm'luds'. It seems to me that James Eadie's point that HM's opposition could have stopped the prorogation at any time by tabling a motion of no confidence in the government. That they chose not to do that, he claims, was their political decision and thus the supreme court should not intervene. Sounds like a strong position I'd say. I heard nothing in Lord Pannick's closing remarks to rebut it.
Keep believing the fake news pedalled by the scum lying press.DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:10 pmHow did that microphone magically appear to attach itself to his body?Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:13 amThe fella was there in his capacity as a father. He was perfectly entitled to tell Johnson of his experience at Whipps. The clown saying there was no press there was laughable?