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Posted: **Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:06 pm**

Games without TJ in Dec/Jan and the impact his injury had on our results:

Barnsley 0 - 4 Leyton
Leyton Orient 3 - 0 Crawley
Leyton Orient 2 - 0 Cambridge U
Bristol R 2 - 3 Leyton Orient
Leyton Orient 1 - 0 Shrewsbury

(TJs last game was the 0-0 draw at home to Burton before he was injured. His first game back was the 1-1 draw with Derby).

Posted: **Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:26 pm**

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:50 pm I've no idea what you're talking about, but have fun with it anyway!

OK Max, GTP etc etc

Posted: **Sun Mar 09, 2025 6:02 pm**

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:06 pm Games without TJ in Dec/Jan and the impact his injury had on our results:

Barnsley 0 - 4 Leyton
Leyton Orient 3 - 0 Crawley
Leyton Orient 2 - 0 Cambridge U
Bristol R 2 - 3 Leyton Orient
Leyton Orient 1 - 0 Shrewsbury

(TJs last game was the 0-0 draw at home to Burton before he was injured. His first game back was the 1-1 draw with Derby).

Why are you listing Games we won where our defence
Didn't cost us wins?
Games we lost without T . JAMES
Bolton lost 2-1
Birmingham lost 2-0
Charlton lost 1-2
Rotherham lost 1-0
Northampton lost 1-2 .

Let's go to the start of the season & games TJ didn't play in & that Dan Happe did

Charlton a lost 1-0
Birmingham h lost 1-2
Shrewsbury a lost 3-0
Wycombe a lost 3-0

2 games TJ starts surprise surprise
Reading a won 1-0
Stockport a won 4-1

But you carry on believing that TJ isn't the important cog in the team that gives balance to our defence & let's the midfield be the midfield.
I'll believe very differently.

Posted: **Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:53 pm**

Ok m8, you win. You are the best.

Posted: **Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:54 pm**

Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:26 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:50 pm I've no idea what you're talking about, but have fun with it anyway!
OK Max, GTP etc etc

Hold up. You think CCH is me? What?

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:52 am**

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:54 pm
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:26 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:50 pm I've no idea what you're talking about, but have fun with it anyway!
OK Max, GTP etc etc
Hold up. You think CCH is me? What?

Nope, I think you are CCH

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:55 am**

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:53 pm Ok m8, you win. You are the best.

This isn't about me,

This about understanding how much balance
that Tom James brings to a back four that also has Dan Happe & Omar Beckles in it & the complete structure of the way Richie Wellens wants to play football.
If you can't see that then I don’t know what you have been watching for the last 3 years.

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:56 am**

HackneyO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:06 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:54 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:20 pm Would put the Currie suspension in there too, lost every game since he's been out, much like start of the season where LB was a huge weak spot.
Sweeney was substituted at HT and it looked like Williams played LB. Was Sweeney injured ?
Think it was to leave the attackers on and get Kelman on. Williams looked ok at lb, although wasn’t tested other than by poor passes from Brown and Keeley.

We had much more width in the second half when Williams moved to LB - think it enabled us to open the pitch up. Couldn’t understand in the first half why we were so narrow when we have 2 very good wingers on the pitch and a very capable striker to put balls into from wide positions

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:56 am**

HackneyO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:06 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:54 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:20 pm Would put the Currie suspension in there too, lost every game since he's been out, much like start of the season where LB was a huge weak spot.
Sweeney was substituted at HT and it looked like Williams played LB. Was Sweeney injured ?
Think it was to leave the attackers on and get Kelman on. Williams looked ok at lb, although wasn’t tested other than by poor passes from Brown and Keeley.

We had much more width in the second half when Williams moved to LB - think it enabled us to open the pitch up. Couldn’t understand in the first half why we were so narrow when we have 2 very good wingers on the pitch and a very capable striker to put balls into from wide positions

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:05 am**

Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:55 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:53 pm Ok m8, you win. You are the best.
This isn't about me,

This about understanding how much balance
that Tom James brings to a back four that also has Dan Happe & Omar Beckles in it & the complete structure of the way Richie Wellens wants to play football.
If you can't see that then I don’t know what you have been watching for the last 3 years.

Yes mate, you won.

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:08 am**

Look, I like TJ a lot. We have missed him. Just we’ve missed Beckles and Happe much more.

But he is the complete antithesis of a Wellens fullback. Surely everyone can see that?

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:24 pm**

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:05 am
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:55 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:53 pm Ok m8, you win. You are the best.
This isn't about me,

This about understanding how much balance
that Tom James brings to a back four that also has Dan Happe & Omar Beckles in it & the complete structure of the way Richie Wellens wants to play football.
If you can't see that then I don’t know what you have been watching for the last 3 years.
Yes mate, you won.

None of us are to old for learning something
You're normally quite sensible but sometimes you do go a touch over the top.
Allow us all to have a view & an opinion

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:45 pm**

I agree Bandy.....except for the 'touch' bit.

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:01 pm**

Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:24 pm None of us are to old for learning something
You're normally quite sensible

Thanks, chief.

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:39 pm**

Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:55 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:53 pm Ok m8, you win. You are the best.
This isn't about me,

This about understanding how much balance
that Tom James brings to a back four that also has Dan Happe & Omar Beckles in it & the complete structure of the way Richie Wellens wants to play football.
If you can't see that then I don’t know what you have been watching for the last 3 years.

We understand, Tom.

But I'm not sure Richie fancies you that much, as he has often replaced you with Galbraith and Clare.

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:54 pm**

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:39 pm
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:55 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Mar 09, 2025 10:53 pm Ok m8, you win. You are the best.
This isn't about me,

This about understanding how much balance
that Tom James brings to a back four that also has Dan Happe & Omar Beckles in it & the complete structure of the way Richie Wellens wants to play football.
If you can't see that then I don’t know what you have been watching for the last 3 years.
We understand, Tom.

But I'm not sure Richie fancies you that much, as he has often replaced you with Galbraith and Clare.

Have you ever had a Football Injury?
Ask Sid he'll tell you all about 'em

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:55 pm**

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:45 pm I agree Bandy.....except for the 'touch' bit.

I'm sure you do

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:47 pm**

How are you, anyway, Sid ? You've been a bit quiet of late.

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:25 pm**

I think we miss James and Happe mostly, because of their contributions . It all went downhill after the£ club announced a new buyer.
Confidence all went

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:26 pm**

Norlington Road wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:25 pm I think we miss James and Happe mostly, because of their contributions . It all went downhill after the club announced a new buyer., was in the wings
Confidence all dissapeared

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 5:20 pm**

Beckles/Happe/James, would love to know our win /loss /goals conceded stats when these 3 play 90 mins together! (Apart from when Hemming was behind them).

Posted: **Mon Mar 10, 2025 5:27 pm**

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:47 pm How are you, anyway, Sid ? You've been a bit quiet of late.

F'kin cheek, I'm younger than Sid

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