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Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:34 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:22 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:10 am
I hope once Saturdays 'cut off point' has passed, we will forget those who have been offered contracts, but not yet accepted them.....they've had long enough, and start getting their replacements in the building.
If the non contract signers think they can do better elsewhere, then let them.
Smyth going would be a wrench, he's the best player we've ever had, but the rest, Im not bothered.
After a while they might regret not signing for the O's
Ive lost patience with them now......SIGN OR GO
Paul Smyth isnt close to being the Best Player weve ever had !
He is
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:48 pm
by Wally Banter
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:34 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:22 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:10 am
I hope once Saturdays 'cut off point' has passed, we will forget those who have been offered contracts, but not yet accepted them.....they've had long enough, and start getting their replacements in the building.
If the non contract signers think they can do better elsewhere, then let them.
Smyth going would be a wrench, he's the best player we've ever had, but the rest, Im not bothered.
After a while they might regret not signing for the O's
Ive lost patience with them now......SIGN OR GO
Paul Smyth isnt close to being the Best Player weve ever had !
He is
On what do you base this opinion? Would like to hear your reasoning.
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:11 pm
by tuffers#1
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:34 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:22 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:10 am
I hope once Saturdays 'cut off point' has passed, we will forget those who have been offered contracts, but not yet accepted them.....they've had long enough, and start getting their replacements in the building.
If the non contract signers think they can do better elsewhere, then let them.
Smyth going would be a wrench, he's the best player we've ever had, but the rest, Im not bothered.
After a while they might regret not signing for the O's
Ive lost patience with them now......SIGN OR GO
Paul Smyth isnt close to being the Best Player weve ever had !
He is
No he aint
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:18 pm
by BIGRON
I'd agree that Smyth is decent but nowhere near the best we've had
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:23 pm
by tuffers#1
BIGRON wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:18 pm
I'd agree that Smyth is decent but nowhere near the best we've had
Exactly Ron .
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:29 pm
by banqo
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:34 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:22 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:10 am
I hope once Saturdays 'cut off point' has passed, we will forget those who have been offered contracts, but not yet accepted them.....they've had long enough, and start getting their replacements in the building.
If the non contract signers think they can do better elsewhere, then let them.
Smyth going would be a wrench, he's the best player we've ever had, but the rest, Im not bothered.
After a while they might regret not signing for the O's
Ive lost patience with them now......SIGN OR GO
Paul Smyth isnt close to being the Best Player weve ever had !
He is
I take it you never saw Laurie Cunningham?
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:39 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
banqo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:29 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:34 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:22 pm
Paul Smyth isnt close to being the Best Player weve ever had !
He is
I take it you never saw Laurie Cunningham?
Yes, I saw Laurie, I believe Paul Smyth is better, and the standard today is miles better than it was in Laurie's day.
I bet Paul comes up against better quality right backs than Laurie did 50 years ago
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:45 pm
by Chelmsford Swimmer
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:39 pm
banqo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:29 pm
I take it you never saw Laurie Cunningham?
Yes, I saw Laurie, I believe Paul Smyth is better, and the standard today is miles better than it was in Laurie's day.
I bet Paul comes up against better quality right backs than Laurie did 50 years ago
I think you'll have a better argument when Paul Smyth plays for Real Madrid.
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:54 pm
by tuffers#1
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:39 pm
banqo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:29 pm
I take it you never saw Laurie Cunningham?
Yes, I saw Laurie, I believe Paul Smyth is better, and the standard today is miles better than it was in Laurie's day.
I bet Paul comes up against better quality right backs than Laurie did 50 years ago
Like Phil Neal a man who won the European Cup 4 times to name just one . Which right back has Smyth ever faced better than that ?
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:02 pm
by gshaw
moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:16 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:01 pm
Of the 4 the biggest loss would be Vigs, he's been at a consistently high level his entire time at the club.
It's not so much the fact of replacing players, rather the fact the entire spine of the team may end up needing to be replaced in addition to the 5 or so RW was planning on.
Would be happy (pun intended) getting Ed Turns back to replace Happe if he goes
Worst case scenario...
New GK x2
CBs x2
CDMs x2
CAM x1
LW& RW x2 (Smith & Sadlier positions)
ST x2
What about Sweeney he could be a surprise package next season
Good point forgot he was out of contract too, that's another LB to add to the list to compete with / cover Hunt required if Sweeney doesn't sign
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:58 pm
by Brastrapovich0
"Smyth going would be a wrench, he's the best player we've ever had, but the rest, Im not bothered."
You must a young'un then!
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:31 pm
by cockhat
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:22 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:10 am
I hope once Saturdays 'cut off point' has passed, we will forget those who have been offered contracts, but not yet accepted them.....they've had long enough, and start getting their replacements in the building.
If the non contract signers think they can do better elsewhere, then let them.
Smyth going would be a wrench, he's the best player we've ever had, but the rest, Im not bothered.
After a while they might regret not signing for the O's
Ive lost patience with them now......SIGN OR GO
Paul Smyth isnt close to being the Best Player weve ever had !
You’ve gone up in my estimation!
You are totally right!
These young supporters know nothing.
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:56 pm
by DaveDunmore
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:39 pm
banqo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:29 pm
I take it you never saw Laurie Cunningham?
Yes, I saw Laurie, I believe Paul Smyth is better, and the standard today is miles better than it was in Laurie's day.
I bet Paul comes up against better quality right backs than Laurie did 50 years ago
But you never saw the right backs that were marking Cunningham (interesting statement that )
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:13 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:56 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:39 pm
banqo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:29 pm
I take it you never saw Laurie Cunningham?
Yes, I saw Laurie, I believe Paul Smyth is better, and the standard today is miles better than it was in Laurie's day.
I bet Paul comes up against better quality right backs than Laurie did 50 years ago
But you never saw the right backs that were marking Cunningham (interesting statement that )
Although Coxy is my favourite Orient player , Laurie was the most skilful player to ever pull on an Orient shirt .
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:23 pm
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:13 pm
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:56 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:39 pm
Yes, I saw Laurie, I believe Paul Smyth is better, and the standard today is miles better than it was in Laurie's day.
I bet Paul comes up against better quality right backs than Laurie did 50 years ago
But you never saw the right backs that were marking Cunningham (interesting statement that )
Although Coxy is my favourite Orient player , Laurie was the most skilful player to ever pull on an Orient shirt .
I'm not even sure that is right either Red. He may well be Orient's greatest player, but Stan Bowles could do things Laurie couldnt & I'm sure people would argue vice -versa . Smyth is streets behind both currently
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:34 pm
by PoundhillO
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:13 pm
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:56 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:39 pm
Yes, I saw Laurie, I believe Paul Smyth is better, and the standard today is miles better than it was in Laurie's day.
I bet Paul comes up against better quality right backs than Laurie did 50 years ago
But you never saw the right backs that were marking Cunningham (interesting statement that )
Although Coxy is my favourite Orient player , Laurie was the most skilful player to ever pull on an Orient shirt .
Laurie was by far the greatest player it was my pleasure to watch in an Orient shirt, nobody else ever came close
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:53 pm
by banqo
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:39 pm
banqo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:29 pm
I take it you never saw Laurie Cunningham?
Yes, I saw Laurie, I believe Paul Smyth is better, and the standard today is miles better than it was in Laurie's day.
I bet Paul comes up against better quality right backs than Laurie did 50 years ago
Your opinion obviously, but I'm sure you're in a minority.
As someone also mentioned, Stan Bowles was a different class, he'd get the ball tell John Chiedozie where to run and plant the ball perfectly for him to run on to.
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:02 pm
by ContrifibulatoryFred
Bowles was past it when he played at the Os
Using this logic then Peter Shilton would vie for being our greatest player
Bowyer was one of the best midfielders I ever saw in an Os shirt - and he (like Laurie) was on the way up not down like Stan Bowles
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:08 pm
by DaveDunmore
ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:02 pm
Bowles was past it when he played at the Os
Using this logic then Peter Shilton would vie for being our greatest player
Bowyer was one of the best midfielders I ever saw in an Os shirt - and he (like Laurie) was on the way up not down like Stan Bowles
Bowyer was a striker in the 11 shirt for the Os, Brian Clough converted him into a midfield player at Forest
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:12 pm
by banqo
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:08 pm
ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:02 pm
Bowles was past it when he played at the Os
Using this logic then Peter Shilton would vie for being our greatest player
Bowyer was one of the best midfielders I ever saw in an Os shirt - and he (like Laurie) was on the way up not down like Stan Bowles
Bowyer was a striker in the 11 shirt for the Os, Brian Clough converted him into a midfield player at Forest
Ian Bowyer was my first O's hero.
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:16 pm
by DaveDunmore
banqo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:12 pm
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:08 pm
ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:02 pm
Bowles was past it when he played at the Os
Using this logic then Peter Shilton would vie for being our greatest player
Bowyer was one of the best midfielders I ever saw in an Os shirt - and he (like Laurie) was on the way up not down like Stan Bowles
Bowyer was a striker in the 11 shirt for the Os, Brian Clough converted him into a midfield player at Forest
Ian Bowyer was my first O's hero.
Scored a hat trick on his home debut
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:20 pm
by banqo
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:16 pm
banqo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:12 pm
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:08 pm
Bowyer was a striker in the 11 shirt for the Os, Brian Clough converted him into a midfield player at Forest
Ian Bowyer was my first O's hero.
Scored a hat trick on his home debut
Against Cardiff, 4-1.
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:49 pm
by tuffers#1
ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:02 pm
Bowles was past it when he played at the Os
Using this logic then Peter Shilton would vie for being our greatest player
Bowyer was one of the best midfielders I ever saw in an Os shirt - and he (like Laurie) was on the way up not down like Stan Bowles
Shilton can be classed as the best ggoalkeeper to have worn an Orient shirt ( 2 European Cups) This Logically does NOT mean he is Orients greatest ever Goalkeeper, Nice try though !
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:50 pm
by tuffers#1
DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:08 pm
ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:02 pm
Bowles was past it when he played at the Os
Using this logic then Peter Shilton would vie for being our greatest player
Bowyer was one of the best midfielders I ever saw in an Os shirt - and he (like Laurie) was on the way up not down like Stan Bowles
Bowyer was a striker in the 11 shirt for the Os, Brian Clough converted him into a midfield player at Forest
Dont you just love a part time fan
Re: Saturday is DDay for out of contract players
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:56 pm
by one o in huntingdon
I wonder how good Alan Comfort could have become, Steve Parsons was a similar case.
Best goalkeeper in my opinion was Paul Heald before he got a head injury at Preston.
