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Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:30 pm**

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:24 pm
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:16 pm Of course Matt Harrold can start games. Why wouldn't he?
The fact he got constantly injured until Justin started using him as an impact substitute speaks volumes.

What? That's not the case though is it?

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:37 pm**

Heard a whisper that we are in for Billy Dane.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:38 pm**

It also appears we are monitoring the French/Algerian striker Chaudshote Hameish.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:20 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:37 pm Heard a whisper that we are in for Billy Dane.

Do you mean Billy Zane. Now that would be Titanic.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:44 pm**

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:30 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:24 pm
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:16 pm Of course Matt Harrold can start games. Why wouldn't he?
The fact he got constantly injured until Justin started using him as an impact substitute speaks volumes.
What? That's not the case though is it?

August 2018, discussion about Harrold *if* he could stay fit

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/leytono ... 25505.html

Let's not rewrite history eh?

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:19 pm**

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:44 pm
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:30 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:24 pm

The fact he got constantly injured until Justin started using him as an impact substitute speaks volumes.
What? That's not the case though is it?
August 2018, discussion about Harrold *if* he could stay fit

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/leytono ... 25505.html

Let's not rewrite history eh?

Tbf he has suffered injury with us, but looking at wiki he seems to play a lot of games every season bar one so for sure he picks up knocks that will take longer to heal due to age but he don’t seem a sick note player.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:22 pm**

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:19 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:44 pm
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:30 pm

What? That's not the case though is it?
August 2018, discussion about Harrold *if* he could stay fit

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/leytono ... 25505.html

Let's not rewrite history eh?
Tbf he has suffered injury with us, but looking at wiki he seems to play a lot of games every season bar one so for sure he picks up knocks that will take longer to heal due to age but he don’t seem a sick note player.

Hit it on the nail with age, barring a few anomalies like McAnuff, Giggs etc. most players pick up more injuries with age. Harrold seemed to be in that phase with us and JE was switched on to it and managed his game time to get maximum impact and availability.

Starting him and making a 35 y/o striker chase after long balls for 90 mins is a different story imo.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:33 pm**

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:22 pm
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:19 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:44 pm

August 2018, discussion about Harrold *if* he could stay fit

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/leytono ... 25505.html

Let's not rewrite history eh?
Tbf he has suffered injury with us, but looking at wiki he seems to play a lot of games every season bar one so for sure he picks up knocks that will take longer to heal due to age but he don’t seem a sick note player.
Hit it on the nail with age, barring a few anomalies like McAnuff, Giggs etc. most players pick up more injuries with age. Harrold seemed to be in that phase with us and JE was switched on to it and managed his game time to get maximum impact and availability.

Starting him and making a 35 y/o striker chase after long balls for 90 mins is a different story imo.

I would be surprised if there were question marks over his fitness levels. No need to give him a deal and I’m sure there are younger players out there ok at being an impact type player, Alabi for starters. So the club must be satisfied he can do a job if the need arises But if he does pick up a knock he is more likely to be out for a while. I doubt he will start many games unless others are out.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:34 pm**

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:33 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:22 pm
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:19 pm

Tbf he has suffered injury with us, but looking at wiki he seems to play a lot of games every season bar one so for sure he picks up knocks that will take longer to heal due to age but he don’t seem a sick note player.
Hit it on the nail with age, barring a few anomalies like McAnuff, Giggs etc. most players pick up more injuries with age. Harrold seemed to be in that phase with us and JE was switched on to it and managed his game time to get maximum impact and availability.

Starting him and making a 35 y/o striker chase after long balls for 90 mins is a different story imo.
I would be surprised if there were question marks over his fitness levels. No need to give him a deal and I’m sure there are younger players out there ok at being an impact type player, Alabi for starters. So the club must be satisfied he can do a job if the need arises But if he does pick up a knock he is more likely to be out for a while. I doubt he will start many games unless others are out.

Which goes back to the point that Angol and Wilkinson need to be fit and ready pretty much every game or we'll be starting with Alabi

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:50 pm**

Alabi and Harold started tonight. Doing as well as expected. Why worry.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:51 pm**

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:50 pm Alabi and Harold started tonight. Doing as well as expected. Why worry.

0-0 at HT against part-timers...

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:15 pm**

Spoke to Martin Ling before the game tonight , no comment was his reply when i asked about anyone else coming in !!

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:37 pm**

Let's not rewrite history. Harrold was on the bench because he was 4th, then 3rd choice last season. When Koroma was injured or played wide, Harrold started.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:42 pm**

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:51 pm
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:50 pm Alabi and Harold started tonight. Doing as well as expected. Why worry.
0-0 at HT against part-timers...

That's what Nutty meant by " Doing as well as expected."

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:44 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:42 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:51 pm
dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:50 pm Alabi and Harold started tonight. Doing as well as expected. Why worry.
0-0 at HT against part-timers...
That's what Nutty meant by " Doing as well as expected."

Yup missed that entirely, you got me fair and square there

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:59 pm**

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:37 pm Let's not rewrite history. Harrold was on the bench because he was 4th, then 3rd choice last season. When Koroma was injured or played wide, Harrold started.

And how did he get on in those games?

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:19 pm**

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:59 pm
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:37 pm Let's not rewrite history. Harrold was on the bench because he was 4th, then 3rd choice last season. When Koroma was injured or played wide, Harrold started.
And how did he get on in those games?

Some good some not so but fairly serviceable overall.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:29 pm**

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:37 pm Let's not rewrite history. Harrold was on the bench because he was 4th, then 3rd choice last season. When Koroma was injured or played wide, Harrold started.

Harrold started three games last season. Neither him nor Alabi were good enough to start for us in the National League, let alone a division higher.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:31 pm**

RicketyCricket wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:29 pm
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:37 pm Let's not rewrite history. Harrold was on the bench because he was 4th, then 3rd choice last season. When Koroma was injured or played wide, Harrold started.
Harrold started three games last season. Neither him nor Alabi were good enough to start for us in the National League, let alone a division higher.

Lucky he's not going to be starting that many games then.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:54 pm**

gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:44 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:42 pm
gshaw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:51 pm

0-0 at HT against part-timers...
That's what Nutty meant by " Doing as well as expected."
Yup missed that entirely, you got me fair and square there

Hope rather than expectation from me. With that pairing I hope for the best but expected exactly what we got. Nothing. Still early days and hope lingers on. Hope is what we have instead of a new striker.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:56 pm**

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:31 pm
RicketyCricket wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:29 pm
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:37 pm Let's not rewrite history. Harrold was on the bench because he was 4th, then 3rd choice last season. When Koroma was injured or played wide, Harrold started.
Harrold started three games last season. Neither him nor Alabi were good enough to start for us in the National League, let alone a division higher.
Lucky he's not going to be starting that many games then.

What happens if Wilkinson or Angol are out injured? Playing one up top would be the only option - not a good position to be in.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:04 pm**

RicketyCricket wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:56 pm
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:31 pm
RicketyCricket wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:29 pm

Harrold started three games last season. Neither him nor Alabi were good enough to start for us in the National League, let alone a division higher.
Lucky he's not going to be starting that many games then.
What happens if Wilkinson or Angol are out injured? Playing one up top would be the only option - not a good position to be in.

And that will happen. We have to hope Harold and Alabi perform.

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:25 am**

The title of this subject. New striker...Any names?
Well it appears like me everyone is struggling to come up with anyone. All i keep reading about is Alabi and Harrold and the same old comments (boring). It appears a high percentage of us believe we are one short of a decent forward alternative to Angol and Wilkinson. So once again! Any names ( not the comedy ones please).

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:09 am**

RicketyCricket wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:56 pm
Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:31 pm
RicketyCricket wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:29 pm

Harrold started three games last season. Neither him nor Alabi were good enough to start for us in the National League, let alone a division higher.
Lucky he's not going to be starting that many games then.
What happens if Wilkinson or Angol are out injured? Playing one up top would be the only option - not a good position to be in.

I reckon Harrold would play, and I'd back him to do a decent job.

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:13 am**

I do wonder if JMD is the reason we have only signed two forwards.

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