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She genuinely beleived that anyone who disagreed with her on anything was anti Scottish, she has serious emotional issues

And you genuinely talk a load of crap

She was clearly a formidable political operator. And her leadership during the Covid crisis showed up Johnston's inadequacies even more than he managed himself.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:16 am She was clearly a formidable political operator. And her leadership during the Covid crisis showed up Johnston's inadequacies even more than he managed himself.

At last someone applies the correct label. Yes she was a formidable political operator. Not a great leader or politician who delivered concrete gains to the people of Scotland.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:13 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:16 am She was clearly a formidable political operator. And her leadership during the Covid crisis showed up Johnston's inadequacies even more than he managed himself.

At last someone applies the correct label. Yes she was a formidable political operator. Not a great leader or politician who delivered concrete gains to the people of Scotland.

ls there a potential great leader in waiting to replace her?

Neptune's Spear wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:41 am She genuinely beleived that anyone who disagreed with her on anything was anti Scottish, she has serious emotional issues

Nope.

Milano wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:22 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:13 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:16 am She was clearly a formidable political operator. And her leadership during the Covid crisis showed up Johnston's inadequacies even more than he managed himself.

At last someone applies the correct label. Yes she was a formidable political operator. Not a great leader or politician who delivered concrete gains to the people of Scotland.

ls there a potential great leader in waiting to replace her?

No and the failure to manage the sucession can be added to the fail list. The whole thing stinks. It's all happened too quickly for there not to be a scandal behind it.

That Craig Murray geezer has bolted to a hidey hole in the Outer Hebrides with a brief case full of leaked or hacked emails from some SNP top brass and is taking legal advice on whether they can be used. Watch his space.

Yeah, there's definitely a whiff of jumping before she's shoved from a burning plane without a parachute about this.

She jumped before she was pushed.

Milano wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:22 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:13 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:16 am She was clearly a formidable political operator. And her leadership during the Covid crisis showed up Johnston's inadequacies even more than he managed himself.

At last someone applies the correct label. Yes she was a formidable political operator. Not a great leader or politician who delivered concrete gains to the people of Scotland.

ls there a potential great leader in waiting to replace her?

Nope.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:05 pm Yeah, there's definitely a whiff of jumping before she's shoved from a burning plane without a parachute about this.

This is a decent analysis. Warning: includes liberal use of the C word

https://www.conter.scot/2023/2/15/downf ... smal-rule/

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:41 pm
This is a decent analysis. Warning: includes liberal use of the C word

https://www.conter.scot/2023/2/15/downf ... smal-rule/

l see little or no analysis in this, what else would you expect a Huff Post leftist hack to say? No balanced view here.

I really didn’t like her, she was the main reason for me not wanting to vote for independence, as petty as that sounds. However since, although not coming round to her, have very much come round the the pro indy idea, if someone more likeable were to come in and manage to get indyref2, which I highly doubt will happen, I would probably vote differently this time round.

You either want independence or you don't, surely. Don't understand why it depends on who's leading the SNP

OrientSeb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:10 am I really didn’t like her, she was the main reason for me not wanting to vote for independence, as petty as that sounds. However since, although not coming round to her, have very much come round the the pro indy idea, if someone more likeable were to come in and manage to get indyref2, which I highly doubt will happen, I would probably vote differently this time round.

Ok message received and understood. Will try to get Rick Wellens in to lead the campaign for independence.

Neptune's Spear wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:18 pm She jumped before she was pushed.

Nope. The clear indication that there is no obvious successor makes your baseless assertion just look stupid.

Milano wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:55 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:41 pm
This is a decent analysis. Warning: includes liberal use of the C word

https://www.conter.scot/2023/2/15/downf ... smal-rule/

l see little or no analysis in this, what else would you expect a Huff Post leftist hack to say? No balanced view here.

Ok. I'll let him know he needs more " balance" in his articles.

There is plenty of analysis and explanation about where Nicola and the SNP got to where they are. So I make you bang wrong.

EH16 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:45 am

Neptune's Spear wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:18 pm She jumped before she was pushed.

Nope. The clear indication that there is no obvious successor makes your baseless assertion just look stupid.

I dare you to call me stupid to my face, of course you wont because youre a coward

OooooOOoooooohhhhh

A Lesser Spotted SITMF, glorious.

Celtient wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:35 am You either want independence or you don't, surely. Don't understand why it depends on who's leading the SNP

Of course it matters.

I would have happily had a leftist, Corbyn led Brexit. But absolutely not one led by the tories and other right wing gobshites.

Was woken at about 5 o'clock this morning by Storm Otto. Blowing an absolute hooly in the frozen north. Couldn't get back to sleep so started thinking about boring things to send me to sleep. Keir Starmer popped into my head. I thought, could probably make a good anagram out of that name. Half an hour later, had come up with Sir Meerkat. We'll chuffed I was. It was only later this morning that I realised there was a bloody R left over. If it wasn't for that extra R I would probably have voted Labour at the next election. As it is, will just have to stick with the SNP

Neptune's Spear wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:17 pm

EH16 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:45 am

Neptune's Spear wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:18 pm She jumped before she was pushed.

Nope. The clear indication that there is no obvious successor makes your baseless assertion just look stupid.

I dare you to call me stupid to my face, of course you wont because youre a coward

First off, I didn't call YOU stupid. I said your baseless assertion looked stupid.
Second - You have now adopted the classic pose of someone who has no argument to rely on by becoming needlessly and pointlessly aggressive. I've demolished you verbally and you have nothing else to offer.
Thirdly - While I believe there are some circumstances where only violence will accomplish what needs to be done the quote 'violence is the last refuge of the incompetent' holds broadly true.
Fourthly - Let me know the next time you're in Edinburgh and I'll happily buy you a drink or a coffee and we can discuss it like rational adults.

Bottled it worse than caca and that 'lawyer' bloke.

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:24 pm Bottled it worse than caca and that 'lawyer' bloke.

The lawyer was a QC or Queens Council as he liked to often spell it. Fantastic alias. Enjoyed the Friday night Bantz. Great days.