Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:32 am

The alternative would be for Israel to stop bombing hospitals and release their stranglehold on letting supplies and services in.

I know which is the crazier idea.

Or stop building terrorist bases in and around hospitals?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ng-tobacco

Guardian against ban on kids smoking

Does Simon Jenkins count as guardian even when in the guardian?

The Sofie Hagen excerpt on the guardian website is astonishing

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... ight-years

Well done on getting past the first few paragraphs. Looking at her previous work for the Guardian it appears to all be articles about how she’s fat, indeed she’s written 7 such articles. All with catchy headlines like:

Here’s what venues can do to become fat-friendly spaces – and spare a lot of pain

Is there a single comedian out there who isn’t fatphobic? Apart from me, of course

Fat should be something you flaunt'

Insatiable’s fat-shaming is dangerous. Don’t do it, Netflix

This also appears to be the main thrust of yesterday’s article.

Fat activism/fat positivity is an equivalent to pro-anorexia/thinspiration but aimed at women with binge eating disorders rather than eating disorders focused on restriction.

It’s not at all surprising that while this utter fool was publicly doing the “yay! Being fat is great! The only problem is that the size of seats often doesn’t cater to people over twenty stone!”, privately she was agreeing to f*** in bushes with men she didn’t like because she thought she might not attract another man.

And she is surrounded by toxic positivity - women and men who will be like “you go girl!!!” who don’t actually give a f*** that if she actually ate a salad or two she might start to improve her self esteem

It’s quite sad really, but is predictable given certain movements efforts to eradicate any form of discrimination against people for who they are

Even if that leads to people like her launching a campaign against Cancer Research for pointing out that obesity has a proven link to cancer because it’s phobic

Being a land whale is good, actually, you bigots.

I would say that that’s a sexist comment, but as Sofie has realised they are non binary, it isn’t

What do you reckon Mick? Does everything about them present as non binary? I know a few bigots who would even say they are a mentally unstable, vulnerable woman

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 11:16 am Well done on getting past the first few paragraphs.

Read a fair bit, thought "is this actually going to end at some point?" and then saw I was less than half way through and wished I'd bailed sooner.

I would’ve called the article out for its lack of succinctness but I wouldn’t like to be accused of hypocrisy

Strong candidate for “didn’t happen” towards the end:

“I was once waiting at a bus stop late at night and a guy stopped his bicycle to talk to me. He looked excited to see me, like a little boy at the zoo seeing a giraffe for the first time. He asked for my number so enthusiastically that I gave it to him. As he called the number to check I had given him the correct one, he said, “This is great. I just got engaged, but I’ve never tried sleeping with one of your kind before, so I want to try that before I get married.””

Guilty LOL at picking “giraffe” from all the zoo animals

my newfound non-binaryness makes me feel quite confused. How do I have sex without all the gendered sexual scripts? Not to mention my queerness – or rather, my being a 35-year-old queer person who has only ever slept with cis penises. On top of everything, I am socially awkward and often diagnosed-by-the-internet-as-autistic.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:25 pm

my newfound non-binaryness makes me feel quite confused. How do I have sex without all the gendered sexual scripts? Not to mention my queerness – or rather, my being a 35-year-old queer person who has only ever slept with cis penises. On top of everything, I am socially awkward and often diagnosed-by-the-internet-as-autistic.

I remember when Brett Anderson from Suede got absolute pelters for claiming to be a bisexual man who has never had a homosexual experience

CEB wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 12:02 pm Strong candidate for “didn’t happen” towards the end:

“I was once waiting at a bus stop late at night and a guy stopped his bicycle to talk to me. He looked excited to see me, like a little boy at the zoo seeing a giraffe for the first time. He asked for my number so enthusiastically that I gave it to him. As he called the number to check I had given him the correct one, he said, “This is great. I just got engaged, but I’ve never tried sleeping with one of your kind before, so I want to try that before I get married.””

Absolutely did not happen

Someone should do a reverse thread version of that bulls*t anecdote, but stick it in the Daily Mail.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:25 pm

my newfound non-binaryness makes me feel quite confused. How do I have sex without all the gendered sexual scripts? Not to mention my queerness – or rather, my being a 35-year-old queer person who has only ever slept with cis penises. On top of everything, I am socially awkward and often diagnosed-by-the-internet-as-autistic.

That's just a really sad paragraph to read. Seems like proper 'identity(ies) as a personality' stuff.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 9:57 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:25 pm

my newfound non-binaryness makes me feel quite confused. How do I have sex without all the gendered sexual scripts? Not to mention my queerness – or rather, my being a 35-year-old queer person who has only ever slept with cis penises. On top of everything, I am socially awkward and often diagnosed-by-the-internet-as-autistic.

That's just a really sad paragraph to read. Seems like proper 'identity(ies) as a personality' stuff.

Young women on my degree course saying stuff like this a few months before posting up crowdfunders for getting their breasts removed (and being celebrated and showered in positive attention for it) is a massive part of why I found the orthodoxy around trans identities to be deeply concerning.

A few questions

This person is now non binary why? Because they're unattractive?

They're also now queer? Do not recall any female partners being mentioned in the article, except a fantasy about an old actress. Sounding like she is scrabbling around for an answer to her incel problem

What's a "cis penis"?

I have no idea who she is but I’m struggling to understand the issue you all have with her based on that excerpt from her book? (Yes, I made it to the end of the article, no I won’t be reading the book).