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Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:05 pm
by greyhound
nothing surprises me the way this country is heading.
total shut down is on its way :roll:

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:17 pm
by Max Fowler
You would have thought that the police officers he worked with day in day out over 20 years would have used some of their police skills and thought something wasn't quite right with him.

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:00 pm
by Friend or fart
What is even more alarming is that Carrick was in the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Section, as was murderer & rapist Wayne Couzens. This has not been highlighted by the Beeb, which begs many questions. Were Carrick & Couzens muckers? It came out with the Couzens trial that there had been eMails etc and some sort of investigation ( cover-up ) took place. Did these 2 or maybe even more carry out combined ops? I guess journalists dont like asking too many questions on this topic as after all, one investigator got an axe in his head in a pub car park by person(s) unknown!

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:08 pm
by Proposition Joe
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:17 pm You would have thought that the police officers he worked with day in day out over 20 years would have used some of their police skills and thought something wasn't quite right with him.
Be fair, whom amongst our elite crime fighters could have possibly had an inkling the man they called "b*stard Dave" may just have been a wrong'un?

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:09 pm
by tuffers#1
Friend or faux wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:00 pm What is even more alarming is that Carrick was in the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Section, as was murderer & rapist Wayne Couzens. This has not been highlighted by the Beeb, which begs many questions. Were Carrick & Couzens muckers? It came out with the Couzens trial that there had been eMails etc and some sort of investigation ( cover-up ) took place. Did these 2 or maybe even more carry out combined ops? I guess journalists dont like asking too many questions on this topic as after all, one investigator got an axe in his head in a pub car park by person(s) unknown!
Or they could have some contacts in parliament who dont need more eyes on them

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:55 pm
by CEB
The thing that’s disturbing me most is that I’m not even slightly surprised

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:36 pm
by Admin
Proposition Joe wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:08 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:17 pm You would have thought that the police officers he worked with day in day out over 20 years would have used some of their police skills and thought something wasn't quite right with him.
Be fair, whom amongst our elite crime fighters could have possibly had an inkling the man they called "b*stard Dave" may just have been a wrong'un?
Be fair to the woodentops here PJ. If they weren't sure there was anything up with Wayne "The Rapist" Couzens, there's no way they could've suspected b*stard Dave is there?

BTW, I'm sure Spen will be along anytime soon with your answer. He's probably a bit busy driving from Newcastle to London in record time again.

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:00 pm
by Max Fowler

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:01 pm
by Max Fowler
Would it be easier just to draw up a list of all the Met officers who aren't rapists or nonces or racialists?

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:13 am
by Max Fowler
1,600 bad apples but the orchard is fine.

https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-r ... f-12788452

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:35 pm
by Max B Gold
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:13 am 1,600 bad apples but the orchard is fine.

https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-r ... f-12788452
In an orchard of 1,600 trees it would be catastrophic. What on earth is causing so many to go bad? Does the entire orchard need to be ripped out and started again?

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:49 pm
by BoniO
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:13 am 1,600 bad apples but the orchard is fine.

https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-r ... f-12788452
Well, as you alluded too earlier, for every one of those 1600 there must be a handful of colleagues who had some kind of inkling that they were "wrong-uns". I'd suggest that they could be added to the total just because they didn't raise the alarm.

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:14 pm
by Max Fowler
BoniO wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:49 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:13 am 1,600 bad apples but the orchard is fine.

https://news.sky.com/story/met-police-r ... f-12788452
Well, as you alluded too earlier, for every one of those 1600 there must be a handful of colleagues who had some kind of inkling that they were "wrong-uns". I'd suggest that they could be added to the total just because they didn't raise the alarm.
Presumably they've not all got giveaway nicknames like b*stard Dave or C**ty Keith, so how could they tell?

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:19 pm
by CEB
Let’s not forget that though his pattern of offending spanned maybe 20 years, the vast majority - let’s say 17 years - are obviously malicious allegations by someone with a grudge, so that’s really only 4 years of serious sexual offending, so he should be promoted, if anything

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:28 pm
by Give it to Jabo
Crisis? What crisis? Is there ANY good news about life in the UK these days??

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:35 pm
by Wally Banter
Many years of cutting corners across public services will inevitably lead to this sort of thing.

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:30 pm
by Proposition Joe
Wally Banter wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:35 pm Many years of cutting corners across public services will inevitably lead to this sort of thing.
Get Serco to run the Police, involving the private sector is the only way of ensuring better outcomes for the public.

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:33 pm
by Long slender neck
Mother of God, have AC12 been sitting on their hands all this time?

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:03 pm
by Dunners
There's only one thing I'm interested in and that is catching bent coppers!

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:38 am
by Give it to Jabo
Proposition Joe wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:30 pm
Wally Banter wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:35 pm Many years of cutting corners across public services will inevitably lead to this sort of thing.
Get Serco to run the Police, involving the private sector is the only way of ensuring better outcomes for the public.
Yes, making a great job of running trains and the supply of water to name but two essential services...making a great job of making profits, that is.

Fuel supplies are much more affordable, too :x

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:21 am
by Give it to Jabo
There was a Report on the R4 Today programme this morning: it said that the train services in war-torn Ukraine are currently more reliable that those in the UK.

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:27 pm
by Max Fowler
Wally Banter wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:35 pm Many years of cutting corners across public services will inevitably lead to this sort of thing.
You student lefties always have to make this about politics and try to score points, don't you? :roll:

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:04 pm
by StillSpike
Oh my!


Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:53 pm
by tuffers#1
David Carrick sentence 36 life sentences with a minimum of 30 years.

Re: To Serve and Protect

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:32 pm
by Proposition Joe
Too short.