Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Really, the govt should pay for all food for children 365 days a year. They could then also ensure they only get healthy stuff.

It's wonderful to see, ordinary people and councils rising to the challenge, and doing what this rotten to the core government should be doing, and making sure children don't go hungry.
Twitter is full of offers by councils and local authorities, to feed children.
Rashford, is a remarkable young man, who feels me with admiration.

Is there a case that supermarkets should step up to the plate? They have benefitted massively through the pandemic with rates relief and increased business?

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:38 pm Is there a case that supermarkets should step up to the plate? They have benefitted massively through the pandemic with rates relief and increased business?

Yes, agree 100%

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:29 am Rashford, is a remarkable young man, who feels me with admiration.

Sordid fantasy.

A 1 kilo bag of Porridge from most supermarkets =75 p
This will Serve 20 breakfasts.
Works out to just under 4p a day.
Had one myself this morning.
Took all of Two minutes in the microwave.
Just saying..............................

Poor people are just bad AND thick, really.

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:04 pm Poor people are just bad AND thick, really.

Is that it................

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:01 pm A 1 kilo bag of Porridge from most supermarkets =75 p
This will Serve 20 breakfasts.
Works out to just under 4p a day.
Had one myself this morning.
Took all of Two minutes in the microwave.
Just saying..............................

Would it be ok to have it for lunch and dinner too. I realise that trebles the cost and to be honest I'm worried about scurvy or similar from an unbalanced diet. Any thoughts?

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:09 pm

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:04 pm Poor people are just bad AND thick, really.

Is that it................

Well why else don't they help themselves then? Or have I missed your point?

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:09 pm

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:01 pm A 1 kilo bag of Porridge from most supermarkets =75 p
This will Serve 20 breakfasts.
Works out to just under 4p a day.
Had one myself this morning.
Took all of Two minutes in the microwave.
Just saying..............................

Would it be ok to have it for lunch and dinner too. I realise that trebles the cost and to be honest I'm worried about scurvy or similar from an unbalanced diet. Any thoughts?

No, you can do what I did last night Max.
A beef casserole and Dumplings for 3.
Along with Creamy mash potato, Broccoli and Spinach.carrots mushrooms.
Came to just under £2 per head.
Still had one meal left over.

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:16 pm

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:09 pm

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:04 pm Poor people are just bad AND thick, really.

Is that it................

Well why else don't they help themselves then? Or have I missed your point?

No.
You’re probably right,even with a poor attempt at sarcasm.

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:21 pm

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:16 pm

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:09 pm

Is that it................

Well why else don't they help themselves then? Or have I missed your point?

No.
You’re probably right,even with a poor attempt at sarcasm.

OK well glad we've sorted that.

What was the point in the post then and a whole other topic?

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:23 pm

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:21 pm

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:16 pm

Well why else don't they help themselves then? Or have I missed your point?

No.
You’re probably right,even with a poor attempt at sarcasm.

OK well glad we've sorted that.

What was the point in the post then and a whole other topic?

All right I’ll bite.
I am sure even the poorest people in the country can afford 4p.
Or a packet of Cornflakes 50p in Lidl’s = 12 portions at 5p per head.

Oiram wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:56 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:52 pm I heard on he radio earlier today and have since read that the commons voted down extending free meals for pupils. How can the clowns that voted that down sleep well at night, it’s an absolute disgrace. No one should live in poverty in this country, no child should go without food and especially in this mad world we currently live in help should be extended and more arms wrapped around people that need help and support.

I’m fuming and I’m going to be writing to my mp to complain and ask he makes representation to the minister responsible and even lobby the pm.

Time for action people, hopefully a few more of you will reach out to your mp and show your disgust at this turn of events.

Who is with me?

People who cannot afford to feed their children should not have children.

There has been in existence contingencies in place post war means to support families in need , the benefit system. What do people do with this money?

At what point does the state stop nursing people ? Some parental responsibility is required at some point. Rashford is being put up by Lefty Remoaning bigots for their own political agenda.

You utter clown.

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:27 pm

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:23 pm

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:21 pm

No.
You’re probably right,even with a poor attempt at sarcasm.

OK well glad we've sorted that.

What was the point in the post then and a whole other topic?

All right I’ll bite.
I am sure even the poorest people in the country can afford 4p.
Or a packet of Cornflakes 50p in Lidl’s = 12 portions at 5p per head.

Not sure it was me trying for the bite, Cavs.

As much as a nirvana of porridge and cornflakes to get you through the week is no doubt appealing (and in no way linked to health issues, lack of progress in education, insufficient for wellbeing etc), some don't. That's not contentious. That's just fact. But still, just for now, right? Well, no. Poverty is often very long term. That is insufficient in the 5th richest country on earth.

You have another thread or two to further cement your point about a subject you are ignorant on. Maybe whack that on there next time? Oh, and I know you're a lifelong Labour voter.

So a cheap breakfast thread has already been hijacked into a dinner thread as well. Typical. FFS Ling ...

Mental note - don't check in on the forum mid afternoon during the week. There seem to be a lot of 'Loose Women' threads.

Omygawd wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:38 pm So a cheap breakfast thread has already been hijacked into a dinner thread as well. Typical. FFS Ling ...

All we need now is for the usual suspects to turn up and start an argument, that should kill the 4p beakfast off.

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:35 pm

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:27 pm

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:23 pm

OK well glad we've sorted that.

What was the point in the post then and a whole other topic?

All right I’ll bite.
I am sure even the poorest people in the country can afford 4p.
Or a packet of Cornflakes 50p in Lidl’s = 12 portions at 5p per head.

Not sure it was me trying for the bite, Cavs.

As much as a nirvana of porridge and cornflakes to get you through the week is no doubt appealing (and in no way linked to health issues, lack of progress in education, insufficient for wellbeing etc), some don't. That's not contentious. That's just fact. But still, just for now, right? Well, no. Poverty is often very long term. That is insufficient in the 5th richest country on earth.

You have another thread or two to further cement your point about a subject you are ignorant on. Maybe whack that on there next time? Oh, and I know you're a lifelong Labour voter.

I wasn’t aware we were talking about poverty.
I was just saying that even the poorest in society should be able to afford a breakfast.
If they can’t afford a few pennies then either their income is insufficient or they are wasting it on non essentials.

Lovejoy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:43 pm

Omygawd wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:38 pm So a cheap breakfast thread has already been hijacked into a dinner thread as well. Typical. FFS Ling ...

All we need now is for the usual suspects to turn up and start an argument, that should kill the 4p beakfast off.

I have got some more money saving ideas up my sleeve.
Watch this space.

Poorest 10% of households spend over 25% of expenditure on food. Those same households are likely to spend 33% or above on rent. Chuck in other housing costs, loss of income/job due to a recession, internet, phone contracts, and then £2 per head per meal starts to look pretty expensive doesn't it?

It is cheaper to eat badly than well, that's backed up by any research you want to look at. Education is obviously part of the problem, but it doesn't help poverty stricken kids to know the reason they will go malnourished and hungry is because their parents were badly taught. Free school meals is a subsidy to the poorest kids during the deepest recession that makes sure they actually get healthy food in them.

Why are people moralising them when there are consultants being paid 7k a day to develop a track and trace system thats failed so badly that even more people are being pushed into poverty?

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:47 pm

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:35 pm

Cavalier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:27 pm
All right I’ll bite.
I am sure even the poorest people in the country can afford 4p.
Or a packet of Cornflakes 50p in Lidl’s = 12 portions at 5p per head.

Not sure it was me trying for the bite, Cavs.

As much as a nirvana of porridge and cornflakes to get you through the week is no doubt appealing (and in no way linked to health issues, lack of progress in education, insufficient for wellbeing etc), some don't. That's not contentious. That's just fact. But still, just for now, right? Well, no. Poverty is often very long term. That is insufficient in the 5th richest country on earth.

You have another thread or two to further cement your point about a subject you are ignorant on. Maybe whack that on there next time? Oh, and I know you're a lifelong Labour voter.

I wasn’t aware we were talking about poverty.
I was just saying that even the poorest in society should be able to afford a breakfast.
If they can’t afford a few pennies then either their income is insufficient or they are wasting it on non essentials.

Well yeah, we're starting to get there. You're inching closer.

If we're talking about the poorest in society then yes, we are talking about poverty. And yes, for some the income is insufficient. So sometimes they need state help - or more state help. Or at least less barriers.

But those barriers are easier to put up by governments when they feel the public mood is on the 'well, they buy fags probably!' train. So it becomes a difficult problem to sort.

Being anti kids going hungry = remoaner bigot.
Making parenthood contingent on income = enlightened compassionate Brexiteer.

Got it.

These 4 and 5 pence breakfasts must be very dry as there no mention of milk being added.that will bump up price