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Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:44 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:31 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:12 pm

Why does it end any hopes of a striker coming in and where does it say "It's just like a new signing"? Or is this your own biased bullshit?

I'm waiting for the interview to come out about Alabi's second chance... a bit of a running joke after so many wet themselves about him scoring against a bunch of part-timers.

Still waiting on that chequebook coming out, Alabi being brought back into the fold suggests it's more likely we won't be making a signing now than it was yesterday imo.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:18 pm

Edinburgh thought he wasn't good enough for a bench where we could name 5 substitutes. With two more sub spaces in League Two they've clearly decided they'd risk playing him off the bench if the game sitution calls for it. Don't agree with that, but at least there's some logic in there.

Justin brought in another player and then put Harrold in as well to avoid playing Alabi even when there was space for him. This decision definitely doesn't follow "Justin's list"

I'd be more willing to listen to your paranoid nonsense about getting the 'chequebook' out if we hadn't already got the 'chequebook' out, twice.

Pocket change nominal fees compared to what we've sold. Squad needs depth yet people seem happy not even replacing what was released and now excited about Alabi. Easily pleased I guess.

Cheer up mate, we haven't yet done our traditional signing of an injured player that has missed most of pre-season.

gshaw wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:51 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:44 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:31 pm

I'm waiting for the interview to come out about Alabi's second chance... a bit of a running joke after so many wet themselves about him scoring against a bunch of part-timers.

Still waiting on that chequebook coming out, Alabi being brought back into the fold suggests it's more likely we won't be making a signing now than it was yesterday imo.



Justin brought in another player and then put Harrold in as well to avoid playing Alabi even when there was space for him. This decision definitely doesn't follow "Justin's list"

I'd be more willing to listen to your paranoid nonsense about getting the 'chequebook' out if we hadn't already got the 'chequebook' out, twice.

Pocket change nominal fees compared to what we've sold. Squad needs depth yet people seem happy not even replacing what was released and now excited about Alabi. Easily pleased I guess.

Why is it being easily pleased? Do we only judge players now based on transfer fees/wages paid?

Tell me, what do you consider to be the sort of fee that we should be paying out?

Gshaw must be a good giggle away from this board

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:58 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:51 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:44 pm

I'd be more willing to listen to your paranoid nonsense about getting the 'chequebook' out if we hadn't already got the 'chequebook' out, twice.

Pocket change nominal fees compared to what we've sold. Squad needs depth yet people seem happy not even replacing what was released and now excited about Alabi. Easily pleased I guess.

Why is it being easily pleased? Do we only judge players now based on transfer fees/wages paid?

Tell me, what do you consider to be the sort of fee that we should be paying out?

Doesn't have to be a fee, it's getting the quality and bodies in to give us a strong squad.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:59 pm Gshaw must be a good giggle away from this board

Yeah you're proper missing out only seeing me on here

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:27 am

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:02 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:58 am Absolute arse fallen out of the clubs decision makers on this one. Either we haven't got the money or the will to bring in another striker or people genuinely think he is going to be better than last season.

If its the last one i'd like to see their workings.

If it means another striker isn't coming in I really worry for us next season.

Good enough reason for you not to renew?
I hear Daggers are looking for new fans

Already renewed im afraid Lucky. Looking forward to calling him crap to his face week after week

From behind a computer screen hard man

Groombridge wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:09 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:27 am

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:02 am

Good enough reason for you not to renew?
I hear Daggers are looking for new fans

Already renewed im afraid Lucky. Looking forward to calling him crap to his face week after week

From behind a computer screen hard man

Yeah boiiii

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:32 pm

Byways1 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:55 am

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:54 am

Justin thought Alabi wasnt good enough for the National League, but Ross/Martin think hes good enough for League 2. Very strange decision tbh.

It makes him look like a Ling signing all along.
JE never considered him after the first month.

And you know that of course

Well whoever signed him wasted 50 k a year in wages.
It seems JE did all he could not to pick him.

gshaw wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:01 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:58 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:51 pm

Pocket change nominal fees compared to what we've sold. Squad needs depth yet people seem happy not even replacing what was released and now excited about Alabi. Easily pleased I guess.

Why is it being easily pleased? Do we only judge players now based on transfer fees/wages paid?

Tell me, what do you consider to be the sort of fee that we should be paying out?

Doesn't have to be a fee, it's getting the quality and bodies in to give us a strong squad.

So why does it matter that we paid "pocket change nominal fees" for two players then? Especially when I've not seen any evidence that one of them is anything of the sort. You're just using that as an additional whinge.

Shaw, where are you getting your information on the fee for Lee Angol please?

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:12 pm Shaw, where are you getting your information on the fee for Lee Angol please?

Can't remember who now but it was one of the usual Twitter esque unofficial sources when Angol's name name was being bandied around in the rumour stage. £35-45k kinda territory.

What has happened to the money we got for Bonne and Koroma? This was considerably more than 35000. Will it be spent on players or even on ground improvements?

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:54 pm What has happened to the money we got for Bonne and Koroma? This was considerably more than 35000. Will it be spent on players or even on ground improvements?

Been spent on the new singing section a drum and a Banjo

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:23 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:54 pm What has happened to the money we got for Bonne and Koroma? This was considerably more than 35000. Will it be spent on players or even on ground improvements?

Been spent on the new singing section a drum and a Banjo

Tunji?

We overspent on the budget last year. Belts being significantly tightened to reduce losses. Board are content with 22nd this season so don’t expect any major moves now Falkingham has turned us down.

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:07 pm We overspent on the budget last year. Belts being significantly tightened to reduce losses. Board are content with 22nd this season so don’t expect any major moves now Falkingham has turned us down.

I Don't expect us to be challenging for promotion, I do expect a few seasons consolidating our L2 status before the Board look further. We are, after all, ahead of the game when looking at their ambitions so a bit of consolidation should be expected. A comfortable L2 season will do for me and I think our current squad should be good enough to achieve that.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:44 pm

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:07 pm We overspent on the budget last year. Belts being significantly tightened to reduce losses. Board are content with 22nd this season so don’t expect any major moves now Falkingham has turned us down.

I Don't expect us to be challenging for promotion, I do expect a few seasons consolidating our L2 status before the Board look further. We are, after all, ahead of the game when looking at their ambitions so a bit of consolidation should be expected. A comfortable L2 season will do for me and I think our current squad should be good enough to achieve that.

Our current squad has no chance of achieving that; by anyone’s definition, it is weaker than last season.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:44 pm

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:07 pm We overspent on the budget last year. Belts being significantly tightened to reduce losses. Board are content with 22nd this season so don’t expect any major moves now Falkingham has turned us down.

I Don't expect us to be challenging for promotion, I do expect a few seasons consolidating our L2 status before the Board look further. We are, after all, ahead of the game when looking at their ambitions so a bit of consolidation should be expected. A comfortable L2 season will do for me and I think our current squad should be good enough to achieve that.

Yes, a comfortable season would be pleasing. I’d imagine it’ll be an uncomfortable one, though. There’s an abject lack of quality outside of the first XI, and I have my doubts about plenty of them at League Two level as well (Brill, Ling, Widdowson and Wright in particular)

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:57 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:44 pm

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:07 pm We overspent on the budget last year. Belts being significantly tightened to reduce losses. Board are content with 22nd this season so don’t expect any major moves now Falkingham has turned us down.

I Don't expect us to be challenging for promotion, I do expect a few seasons consolidating our L2 status before the Board look further. We are, after all, ahead of the game when looking at their ambitions so a bit of consolidation should be expected. A comfortable L2 season will do for me and I think our current squad should be good enough to achieve that.

Yes, a comfortable season would be pleasing. I’d imagine it’ll be an uncomfortable one, though. There’s an abject lack of quality outside of the first XI, and I have my doubts about plenty of them at League Two level as well (Brill, Ling, Widdowson and Wright in particular)

Spot on analysis.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:58 pm

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:57 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:44 pm

I Don't expect us to be challenging for promotion, I do expect a few seasons consolidating our L2 status before the Board look further. We are, after all, ahead of the game when looking at their ambitions so a bit of consolidation should be expected. A comfortable L2 season will do for me and I think our current squad should be good enough to achieve that.

Yes, a comfortable season would be pleasing. I’d imagine it’ll be an uncomfortable one, though. There’s an abject lack of quality outside of the first XI, and I have my doubts about plenty of them at League Two level as well (Brill, Ling, Widdowson and Wright in particular)

Spot on analysis.

Maybe after years in NL we assume L2 will contain players like Kane and Messi. It won’t. No doubt better overall quality but as a Championship winning team we proved better than all in the NL so not a million miles short of middling L2 quality.

I share concerns over depth. lacking up front and midfield but the core of our squad is pretty good, the new recruits are decent enough and our strength is our defence more than good enough for L2.

I expect plenty of tight games with wins and defeats by the odd goal. How Ross manages will be the crucial factor, not the players. If he screws up we are in big trouble. If he continues the fight and team spirit of JE we will be OK. Ross is the key, the squad is adequate.

Not convinced. Particularly up front. If we lose Angol or Wilkinson, or one or both of them turn out to be duffs, we lack any real goals. Reasonably happy with midfield, particularly if we can add a decent winger. Defence is pretty much spot on, although I also share concerns about Brill. I reckon midtable will be about right, which is probably acceptable given the position we find ourselves in.

HavantO wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:21 pm Not convinced. Particularly up front. If we lose Angol or Wilkinson, or one or both of them turn out to be duffs, we lack any real goals. Reasonably happy with midfield, particularly if we can add a decent winger. Defence is pretty much spot on, although I also share concerns about Brill. I reckon midtable will be about right, which is probably acceptable given the position we find ourselves in.

At the moment ,if somebody was to offer me a mid table finish I would take it with both hands .

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:21 pm

HavantO wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:21 pm Not convinced. Particularly up front. If we lose Angol or Wilkinson, or one or both of them turn out to be duffs, we lack any real goals. Reasonably happy with midfield, particularly if we can add a decent winger. Defence is pretty much spot on, although I also share concerns about Brill. I reckon midtable will be about right, which is probably acceptable given the position we find ourselves in.

At the moment ,if somebody was to offer me a mid table finish I would take it with both hands .

Any chance of letting the season start before you wear out your worry beads

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:07 pm We overspent on the budget last year. Belts being significantly tightened to reduce losses. Board are content with 22nd this season so don’t expect any major moves now Falkingham has turned us down.

Is it really true he's turned us down?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:32 pm

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:07 pm We overspent on the budget last year. Belts being significantly tightened to reduce losses. Board are content with 22nd this season so don’t expect any major moves now Falkingham has turned us down.

Is it really true he's turned us down?

Falking hell