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Seems fair to me!one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:12 pm Maybe they will argue it didn't matter because everyone already knows he is a pathological liar
I am not arguing against the misconduct offence.StillSpike wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:20 pm Well should the situation you described arise, we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it (although, of course, there are other remedies in law available to the sitting MP).
The rules are applying to the conduct of the 3 candidates in your example, not to the contest they are involved it. As a sitting MP, he or she also has to understand that they are in Public Office - I don't see a problem with that at all (in any situation).
Trying to judge each person by the same rules is just silly - your legal experience will tell you that the punishments for dishonesty when the individual is in a position of trust are more stringent than those for "ordinary" members of the public. Police Officers who lie or fabricate evidence are held to higher standards than members of the public in many instances and can be prosecuted for misconduct in Public Office.
Do you not think there should be such an offence as Misconduct in Public Office?
Point of order, Spen - you can't have a sitting MP and a by-election at the same time. A by-election is caused by the sitting MP ceasing to be the MP.
The sitting mp will also be contesting the election full time as it’s his job, whereas the rivals are doing it in their spare time. I’m sure they’ll cope with not being able to lie as much as those rivals.spen666 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:45 pmI am not arguing against the misconduct offence.StillSpike wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:20 pm Well should the situation you described arise, we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it (although, of course, there are other remedies in law available to the sitting MP).
The rules are applying to the conduct of the 3 candidates in your example, not to the contest they are involved it. As a sitting MP, he or she also has to understand that they are in Public Office - I don't see a problem with that at all (in any situation).
Trying to judge each person by the same rules is just silly - your legal experience will tell you that the punishments for dishonesty when the individual is in a position of trust are more stringent than those for "ordinary" members of the public. Police Officers who lie or fabricate evidence are held to higher standards than members of the public in many instances and can be prosecuted for misconduct in Public Office.
Do you not think there should be such an offence as Misconduct in Public Office?
I am pointing out that a sitting MP will be unable to fairly contest a by election as he has different restrictions to his rivals. A fair playing field should apply to all.
Correct, unless MP is a Cabinet Minister when he or she would remain in role until after election. So same scenario as before but read cabinet minister for mpA Pedant wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:00 pmPoint of order, Spen - you can't have a sitting MP and a by-election at the same time. A by-election is caused by the sitting MP ceasing to be the MP.
Everybody contesting an election is a Prospective Parliamentary Candidate, whether they were the sitting MP or not. At a general election all 650 MPs cease to be MPs and become PPCs along with all the other candidates.
Good old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm Boris not going to court now after going to court today!
A result that was inevitable in my view
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social
Well then ,maybe he should have been tried in Scotland instead . That's a lesson for any future court battles . I wonder if it was possible he was actually telling the truth and not lying .Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:27 pmGood old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm Boris not going to court now after going to court today!
A result that was inevitable in my view
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social
Inconceivable.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:32 pmWell then ,maybe he should have been tried in Scotland instead . That's a lesson for any future court battles . I wonder if it was possible he was actually telling the truth and not lying .Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:27 pmGood old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm Boris not going to court now after going to court today!
A result that was inevitable in my view
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social
Not according to a court it wasn't. If I was Boris, I would now try and find a way to counter sue this idiot.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:44 pmInconceivable.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:32 pmWell then ,maybe he should have been tried in Scotland instead . That's a lesson for any future court battles . I wonder if it was possible he was actually telling the truth and not lying .
What justice? This is nothing but the establishment maintaining the status quo and keeping the plebs in their place.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:27 pmGood old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm Boris not going to court now after going to court today!
A result that was inevitable in my view
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social
Believe what you want mate. It was a victory for Great Big Blondey Liars.Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:55 pmWhat justice? This is nothing but the establishment maintaining the status quo and keeping the plebs in their place.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:27 pmGood old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm Boris not going to court now after going to court today!
A result that was inevitable in my view
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social
Eton Mafia win the day again.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm Boris not going to court now after going to court today!
A result that was inevitable in my view
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social
More like an Eton Mess.Joe_Mayo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:12 pmEton Mafia win the day again.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm Boris not going to court now after going to court today!
A result that was inevitable in my view
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social
The rule of law won.Joe_Mayo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:12 pmEton Mafia win the day again.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm Boris not going to court now after going to court today!
A result that was inevitable in my view
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social
I'm offended by his LIES.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:59 pmThe rule of law won.Joe_Mayo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:12 pmEton Mafia win the day again.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm Boris not going to court now after going to court today!
A result that was inevitable in my view
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social
As there was no evidence of any offence, there should be no prosecution
Nah, the rule of who has loads of money can "buy" their version of law won.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:59 pmThe rule of law won.Joe_Mayo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:12 pmEton Mafia win the day again.spen666 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:21 pm Boris not going to court now after going to court today!
A result that was inevitable in my view
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social
As there was no evidence of any offence, there should be no prosecution