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BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:20 am

DuvB wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:48 am

o-no wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:03 am Showing leadership?

He's just hung the closed sign up on the door and is waiting for the clock to run down. He's literally not doing anything - not sure what kind of leadership that is.

Oh, and if anyone has any tangible economic benefits of leaving the EU, please feel free to list them here (or anywhere). Gibberish like "taking back control" doesn't count.

Have you ever heard of democracy and sovereignty or are you just an anti-democratic remoaner?

I get that you're a leaver. We'll never agree over Brexit, but what Boris is doing now is totally undemocratic. He's shutting down Parliament to force a change through which otherwise might not succeed. Forget it's about Brexit for a moment and consider - if he has the power to do this now then why won't he use this process to force through anything he and his cronies want? Sell the NHS to the highest bidder - no problem. Roll up, roll up, it's the Sale of the Century........

Being allowed to close Parliament (and even applauded by some for doing so) is incredibly dangerous for all of us, leavers and remainers alike. How can you not understand that?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:17 am

BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:20 am

DuvB wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:48 am

Have you ever heard of democracy and sovereignty or are you just an anti-democratic remoaner?

I get that you're a leaver. We'll never agree over Brexit, but what Boris is doing now is totally undemocratic. He's shutting down Parliament to force a change through which otherwise might not succeed. Forget it's about Brexit for a moment and consider - if he has the power to do this now then why won't he use this process to force through anything he and his cronies want? Sell the NHS to the highest bidder - no problem. Roll up, roll up, it's the Sale of the Century........

Being allowed to close Parliament (and even applauded by some for doing so) is incredibly dangerous for all of us, leavers and remainers alike. How can you not understand that?

How exactly would they use the same process to sell the NHS? Would all the parties promise it in their manifesto then commit to do it by a certain date?

Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:25 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:17 am

BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:20 am

I get that you're a leaver. We'll never agree over Brexit, but what Boris is doing now is totally undemocratic. He's shutting down Parliament to force a change through which otherwise might not succeed. Forget it's about Brexit for a moment and consider - if he has the power to do this now then why won't he use this process to force through anything he and his cronies want? Sell the NHS to the highest bidder - no problem. Roll up, roll up, it's the Sale of the Century........

Being allowed to close Parliament (and even applauded by some for doing so) is incredibly dangerous for all of us, leavers and remainers alike. How can you not understand that?

How exactly would they use the same process to sell the NHS? Would all the parties promise it in their manifesto then commit to do it by a certain date?

Boris has said that he will not sell the NHS. However, the way the NHS is structured, all GP practices are run privately, usually as companies or partnerships. This is historic from the setting up of the NHS.

This explains why Medical insurance companies (eg Virgin) have been buying up GP practices over the last few years.

Also, departments have been put out to tender, to reduce the cost and pass over responsibility. This has resulted in reduced quality of staff (GP's with special interest rather than a consultant, for example).
This has been going on for over 10 years, when GP'S with special interests were brought in. This was during Tony Blair's time in 2007.

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:36 pm

Orientinoz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:26 pm Its like watching seagulls fighting over a chip...

That’d be top entertainment down under

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:30 pm The sign of a pathological liar - Boris tells so many he can’t recognise what one is anymore.

greyhound wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:06 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:30 pm The sign of a pathological liar - Boris tells so many he can’t recognise what one is anymore.

Corbyn has told so many I just don't no where to start.