Independent Leyton Orient Forum

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:22 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:01 pm

faith1234 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 3:55 pm And Byrne is not good enough for the first team

And definitely not ready for L1 first team action regardless of ability, that's another Grainger / Sargeant in NL scenario all over again. Would have no doubt we'll be signing a replacement #1

I would much rather keep Vigs but yes , if he leaves we'll need a new first choice keeper . I think Byrne has good potential but he's not ready yet .

Christy Pym (Posh) is available. Decent goalie. Byrne is not ready.

Today’s D Day . What’s the chances of us hearing anything. I’d say zero .

Look at the signings teams in L1 have made so far less than 12 and most of them would not be classified as being better than any of our contracted players. Ling said at the AGM that signings start in earnest week commencing 19 th June . If the cut off date for out of contract players is today then we will hear more in the coming days.

moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:07 pm Look at the signings teams in L1 have made so far less than 12 and most of them would not be classified as being better than any of our contracted players. Ling said at the AGM that signings start in earnest week commencing 19 th June . If the cut off date for out of contract players is today then we will hear more in the coming days.

Considering today is the cut off day I'd like to think the club now already knows who's staying or going . I agree we won't know anything until sometime next week . In the meantime we just have to be patient for any updates .

Considering the EFL Transfer Window
doest open Until June 14th , not sure too
much will happen before that date .

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:12 pm On the other board it's just been posted that Vigoroux may be on his way to Charlton, make of it what you will

Some people need to read threads here instead of posting something posted by gshaw !! We already know & have discussed it . Sorry for tagging you G

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:04 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:12 pm On the other board it's just been posted that Vigoroux may be on his way to Charlton, make of it what you will

Some people need to read threads here instead of posting something posted by gshaw !! We already know & have discussed it . Sorry for tagging you G

Vigouroux thread has only just been posted, where else had you seen it? Dunno how much others browse both boards but only post on this one.

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:10 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:04 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:12 pm On the other board it's just been posted that Vigoroux may be on his way to Charlton, make of it what you will

Some people need to read threads here instead of posting something posted by gshaw !! We already know & have discussed it . Sorry for tagging you G

Vigouroux thread has only just been posted, where else had you seen it? Dunno how much others browse both boards but only post on this one.

I was talking to the fool who reposted it G , not you

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:52 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:10 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:04 pm

Some people need to read threads here instead of posting something posted by gshaw !! We already know & have discussed it . Sorry for tagging you G

Vigouroux thread has only just been posted, where else had you seen it? Dunno how much others browse both boards but only post on this one.

I was talking to the fool who reposted it G , not you

Ahhhh gotcha, no worries

I was just wondering when the club is going to tell us who's leaving . If they're going they're going .

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:50 am I was just wondering when the club is going to tell us who's leaving . If they're going they're going .

As the 'cut off' date was Saturday ( yesterday), I would expect some news this coming week, in dribs and drabs, maybe some news tomorrow.
We were never going to get news during the weekend.
I personally am finding this whole saga frustrating. They've had a month to decide ffs, The club needs to know, so it can go look for suitable replacements, if these four are moving on

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:56 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:50 am I was just wondering when the club is going to tell us who's leaving . If they're going they're going .

As the 'cut off' date was Saturday ( yesterday), I would expect some news this coming week, in dribs and drabs, maybe some news tomorrow.
We were never going to get news during the weekend.
I personally am finding this whole saga frustrating. They've had a month to decide ffs, The club needs to know, so it can go look for suitable replacements, if these four are moving on

I would think that RW already has his targets and as Vigs and the others still haven’t signed , they will actively start recruiting from this week as we start pre season friendlies in around a month.
Richie must be well pissed off ……..,What happpened to all that “ Spirit of Togetherness “ that was being spoken about just a few weeks ago………Seems like money talks.

"Seems like money talks". Always has, always will.

You'd think if any had signed yesterday the social media team would be straight on it to get good news out. The silence tells its own story I reckon.

Club and RW can't do much more really, Richie committed back in December and contracts were offered upfront. Penny for Richie's thoughts right now...

I'm happy to be patient for any new signings but when it comes to players leaving there's no reason why the club can't tell us straight away . If they are going , that's it .

gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:08 am You'd think if any had signed yesterday the social media team would be straight on it to get good news out. The silence tells its own story I reckon.

Club and RW can't do much more really, Richie committed back in December and contracts were offered upfront. Penny for Richie's thoughts right now...

I’m more surprised that players like Happe and Sweeney are stalling over signing. Both having come through the youth system and Happe recovering from a bad injury.
Beckles another local lad , I thought he would stay, but as others have said, there’s plenty of fish in the sea and who knows, we even get better players.

I suspect their agents are "hawking" them around to other clubs, to see if he can get a better deal elsewhere

I suppose that is an agents job, but there must be a time limit, and I'd have thought its well past that now

Wellens needs to know soon, so he can buy another entire spine of a squad (or two) if indeed they will be signing elsewhere

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:21 pm I suspect their agents are "hawking" them around to other clubs, to see if he can get a better deal elsewhere

I suppose that is an agents job, but there must be a time limit, and I'd have thought its well past that now

Wellens needs to know soon, so he can buy another entire spine of a squad (or two) if indeed they will be signing elsewhere

Boring ZZZzzzz

The Club has done an excellent job of convincing people that they play with a 100% straight bat all the time, but some of you would do well to administer a pinch of salt alongside some of the things they say.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:19 am I'm happy to be patient for any new signings but when it comes to players leaving there's no reason why the club can't tell us straight away . If they are going , that's it .

They have told us. Look at the retained list...

In terms of the others offered new contracts, how can the club tell us if they have not heard anything from those players?

It's 1pm and the silence from the club is deafening . Well , who's decided to stay or go ?

New keeper is a must now

I assume if Byrne, Sodje, Sweeney, or Nkrumah leave, we are entitled to compensation, but not Happe as he is now 24 ?

Yes, the deadline has passed for contract offers BUT until one of our squad signs on the dotted line for another club there is a reasonable chance that they might circle back and re-sign for us. They will be balancing earnings vs playing time vs risk of uncertainty (club less stable or not a happy place)

Obviously, the longer they leave it - the greater the likelihood that ML / RW et al will look/commit elsewhere.

Last close season - it all felt messy and slow - right into July - and we know what happened from that point!

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:48 pm It's 1pm and the silence from the club is deafening . Well , who's decided to stay or go ?

As of this moment, no one has decided to stay. That's all we know for now.