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Nad2008 wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:36 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:06 pm
Nad2008 wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:03 pm Thought Clay was head and shoulders above anyone else today
Wow
Not the only one obviously. He got MOTM didn't he?
Yeah by the plasterer company who appears on / sponsors the club (sorry, unofficial) podcast. Nuff said really.
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Thor wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:49 pm What surprised me was Embleton saying Wright asked why he was dropped so he was given an explanation of tiredness, then brings him back and he’s as poor as he’s been all season. Complete non entity again. I could have done better then him today. Embarrassing.
I've watched Wright since he was a kid at Charlton. He likes to sit deep and hit the occasional long Hollywood pass but mainly best good at keep ball. . He's never changed and is hardly ever going to worry an opponent.
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As others have said, two poor sides in a poor game played in poor conditions. I thought the wind played a part in all four goals but I could be wrong.

Not many contenders for MOTM - pick any one of Brophy, Clay or Cissé. Good save from Big Vig at the end - I thought it was in.

I don’t like picking players out but how did Johnson stay on the pitch? I know he got the goal but seems to have the knack of always putting defenders between himself and the ball. Also seems to think he is a much quicker player than he really is.

On the plus side, didn’t realise Rowe was playing until I read the match report.
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Oldham used Rowe in a completely different role than what he played at Fylde, at Fylde he was the focal point of their attacks in a front two - playing the ball into his feet and having him influence the game as the main man.

Oldham had him playing in the attacking number ten role behind the front striker today - Which I didn't think suited him, as mentioned - He barely seemed to influence the game like he did so many times against us playing for Fylde.
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Another shout for Clay MOM here. Think he does a fair degree of unseen work, and gets through a lot of graft.
Brophy and Cisse were decent as well.
I'm actually quite concerned that RE can't see how awful Wright is at the moment. Needs dropping.
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Why am I sensing that because Wright is friends with the Edinburgh family, he's being treated differently. I mean if any of the others played as badly as Josh has, they'd struggle to get on the subs bench.
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Even mediocrity would be progress.
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The Big Shot wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:57 pm Oldham used Rowe in a completely different role than what he played at Fylde, at Fylde he was the focal point of their attacks in a front two - playing the ball into his feet and having him influence the game as the main man.

Oldham had him playing in the attacking number ten role behind the front striker today - Which I didn't think suited him, as mentioned - He barely seemed to influence the game like he did so many times against us playing for Fylde.
If I remember correctly he has an absolute canon of a shot which he didn’t get a single chance to employ today.
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Scuba Diver wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:02 pm Another shout for Clay MOM here. Think he does a fair degree of unseen work, and gets through a lot of graft.
Brophy and Cisse were decent as well.
I'm actually quite concerned that RE can't see how awful Wright is at the moment. Needs dropping.
He has been dropped. Today was his return to the starting line up after a couple of games absence. And what a return.
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RedO wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:42 pm
Scuba Diver wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:02 pm Another shout for Clay MOM here. Think he does a fair degree of unseen work, and gets through a lot of graft.
Brophy and Cisse were decent as well.
I'm actually quite concerned that RE can't see how awful Wright is at the moment. Needs dropping.
He has been dropped. Today was his return to the starting line up after a couple of games absence. And what a return.
He really showed us what we've been missing. :o
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Vigouroux 6
Marsh 4
Brophy 6
Coulson 4
Happe 4
Cissé 7 MotM
Clay 7
Wright 3
Wilkinson 3 (Sotiriou 5)
Johnson 2
JMD 4
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Admin wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:28 pm Vigoroux - 6. Clearly an upgrade on sargeant although would like to see the 2nd goal again.
Marsh - 5. Got done by their winger a couple of times and then they bewilderingly switched his side whence he became utterly ineffective against Brophy.
Brophy - 6.5 - Quiet first half, better 2nd with some link up with JMD. Worryingly looks like our main threat.
Happe - 6.5 Steady enough.
Coulson - 5 fairly sure his man for both goals
JMD - 5 - some flashes but generally quiet
Cisse 7 - usual stuff with the odd misplaced pass. Simple and effective.
Clay - 7.5 (MOM). Best performance for some time but still based on him being less turd than those around him
Wright - 3. Ineffective in and out of possession. Frustratingly slows everything down to his pace (which is glacial). No tempo to his play, not sure what RE is seeing.
Johnson 4 - marked up from 3 for his 8 inch tap in. I’ll reserve judgement for the moment but perhaps there’s a reason he’s spent most of his career at lower level
Wilkinson 5 - V quiet. Suspect early tackle on him put him back in a box form which he never got out of.

Subs:

Sotiriou 7 - morons like ability to raise the crowd and the game.

Embleton - would love to know if there’s a plan B when 4-3-3 doesn’t work. Besides Johnson’s goal in the 2nd half, don’t remember us creating hardly anything. Oldham were there for the taking at 2-2 but we hardly stretched them after the equaliser.

The idea of Ling / Embleton taking us into next season is seriously p*ssing me off. I’d accept games like today if it felt like a blip during some progress but I honestly don’t see any.
Here is admin a man who actually watched the game. Fair comments and marks on all. I’m gonna add to Johnson on another post.
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The Big Shot wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:50 pm Feel sorry a bit for Danny Johnson - He's a goal poacher who needs to play in a two and needs the team to create chances for him.

He can't play the wide forward role as he doesn't have the technical ability and doesn't have the physical presence to play up front on his own.

Happy he got off the mark, got the goal his workrate deserved at the very least.
Another who watched the game and understands what’s going on. You’ve hit the nail on the head. I said previously he’s supposed to be the fox in the box and we played him as a winger, today he played centrally against two big lump centre half’s and mostly we hit high balls to him, he needs a foil next to him like you say for him to be most effective. I did like the way he took the ball to feet and looked to swivel off the defender just that no one is close enough to help him out when in that position.

Concerning his goal, people are saying it’s a tap in, that’s what the fox in the box does, not I’m not comparing him to lineker, but even he says most of his goals were scored inside the six yard area, might be slightly exaggerated, but you get the drift.

For Danny to excel we need to create chances for him in the box, trouble is I don’t think we actually did anything inside the area all he got was outside the box with his back to goal. I hope he can take some confidence from his goal and build on that. But Ross please help him out so he can be as effective as possible for the team.
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Thor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:26 am
The Big Shot wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:50 pm Feel sorry a bit for Danny Johnson - He's a goal poacher who needs to play in a two and needs the team to create chances for him.

He can't play the wide forward role as he doesn't have the technical ability and doesn't have the physical presence to play up front on his own.

Happy he got off the mark, got the goal his workrate deserved at the very least.
Another who watched the game and understands what’s going on. You’ve hit the nail on the head. I said previously he’s supposed to be the fox in the box and we played him as a winger, today he played centrally against two big lump centre half’s and mostly we hit high balls to him, he needs a foil next to him like you say for him to be most effective. I did like the way he took the ball to feet and looked to swivel off the defender just that no one is close enough to help him out when in that position.

Concerning his goal, people are saying it’s a tap in, that’s what the fox in the box does, not I’m not comparing him to lineker, but even he says most of his goals were scored inside the six yard area, might be slightly exaggerated, but you get the drift.

For Danny to excel we need to create chances for him in the box, trouble is I don’t think we actually did anything inside the area all he got was outside the box with his back to goal. I hope he can take some confidence from his goal and build on that. But Ross please help him out so he can be as effective as possible for the team.
Good post by @Thor.
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Sid Bishop wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:10 am
Thor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:26 am
The Big Shot wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:50 pm Feel sorry a bit for Danny Johnson - He's a goal poacher who needs to play in a two and needs the team to create chances for him.

He can't play the wide forward role as he doesn't have the technical ability and doesn't have the physical presence to play up front on his own.

Happy he got off the mark, got the goal his workrate deserved at the very least.
Another who watched the game and understands what’s going on. You’ve hit the nail on the head. I said previously he’s supposed to be the fox in the box and we played him as a winger, today he played centrally against two big lump centre half’s and mostly we hit high balls to him, he needs a foil next to him like you say for him to be most effective. I did like the way he took the ball to feet and looked to swivel off the defender just that no one is close enough to help him out when in that position.

Concerning his goal, people are saying it’s a tap in, that’s what the fox in the box does, not I’m not comparing him to lineker, but even he says most of his goals were scored inside the six yard area, might be slightly exaggerated, but you get the drift.

For Danny to excel we need to create chances for him in the box, trouble is I don’t think we actually did anything inside the area all he got was outside the box with his back to goal. I hope he can take some confidence from his goal and build on that. But Ross please help him out so he can be as effective as possible for the team.
Good post by @Thor.
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Not convinced that we need Danny Johnson; Sotiriou is a better option with his all-around play.
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Thor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:18 am
Admin wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:28 pm Vigoroux - 6. Clearly an upgrade on sargeant although would like to see the 2nd goal again.
Marsh - 5. Got done by their winger a couple of times and then they bewilderingly switched his side whence he became utterly ineffective against Brophy.
Brophy - 6.5 - Quiet first half, better 2nd with some link up with JMD. Worryingly looks like our main threat.
Happe - 6.5 Steady enough.
Coulson - 5 fairly sure his man for both goals
JMD - 5 - some flashes but generally quiet
Cisse 7 - usual stuff with the odd misplaced pass. Simple and effective.
Clay - 7.5 (MOM). Best performance for some time but still based on him being less turd than those around him
Wright - 3. Ineffective in and out of possession. Frustratingly slows everything down to his pace (which is glacial). No tempo to his play, not sure what RE is seeing.
Johnson 4 - marked up from 3 for his 8 inch tap in. I’ll reserve judgement for the moment but perhaps there’s a reason he’s spent most of his career at lower level
Wilkinson 5 - V quiet. Suspect early tackle on him put him back in a box form which he never got out of.

Subs:

Sotiriou 7 - morons like ability to raise the crowd and the game.

Embleton - would love to know if there’s a plan B when 4-3-3 doesn’t work. Besides Johnson’s goal in the 2nd half, don’t remember us creating hardly anything. Oldham were there for the taking at 2-2 but we hardly stretched them after the equaliser.

The idea of Ling / Embleton taking us into next season is seriously p*ssing me off. I’d accept games like today if it felt like a blip during some progress but I honestly don’t see any.
Here is admin a man who actually watched the game. Fair comments and marks on all. I’m gonna add to Johnson on another post.
He basically copied and pasted my post.
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Thor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:26 am
The Big Shot wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:50 pm Feel sorry a bit for Danny Johnson - He's a goal poacher who needs to play in a two and needs the team to create chances for him.

He can't play the wide forward role as he doesn't have the technical ability and doesn't have the physical presence to play up front on his own.

Happy he got off the mark, got the goal his workrate deserved at the very least.
Another who watched the game and understands what’s going on. You’ve hit the nail on the head. I said previously he’s supposed to be the fox in the box and we played him as a winger, today he played centrally against two big lump centre half’s and mostly we hit high balls to him, he needs a foil next to him like you say for him to be most effective. I did like the way he took the ball to feet and looked to swivel off the defender just that no one is close enough to help him out when in that position.

Concerning his goal, people are saying it’s a tap in, that’s what the fox in the box does, not I’m not comparing him to lineker, but even he says most of his goals were scored inside the six yard area, might be slightly exaggerated, but you get the drift.

For Danny to excel we need to create chances for him in the box, trouble is I don’t think we actually did anything inside the area all he got was outside the box with his back to goal. I hope he can take some confidence from his goal and build on that. But Ross please help him out so he can be as effective as possible for the team.
So tell me how you’d play him in our team then?

From the cameos so far and that 90 minutes yesterday, he looks an awful signing.

Both Angol and Ruel must have been pissing themselves laughing on the bench.
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Give it to Jabo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:35 am Not convinced that we need Danny Johnson; Sotiriou is a better option with his all-around play.
Clearly the much bette option.
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RedO wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:42 pm
Scuba Diver wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:02 pm Another shout for Clay MOM here. Think he does a fair degree of unseen work, and gets through a lot of graft.
Brophy and Cisse were decent as well.
I'm actually quite concerned that RE can't see how awful Wright is at the moment. Needs dropping.
He has been dropped. Today was his return to the starting line up after a couple of games absence. And what a return.
I'm well aware of that.
By 'dropping', I meant dropped for the foreseeable future, not just 2 games to seemingly appease the fans
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Ain’t gonna happen, unfortunately.

Ross was raving about him at the meet the manager thing.
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gshaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:21 pm
Nad2008 wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:36 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:06 pm

Wow
Not the only one obviously. He got MOTM didn't he?
Yeah by the plasterer company who appears on / sponsors the club (sorry, unofficial) podcast. Nuff said really.
You should give up. Clay was our best player yesterday, a few people have called out your ratings & you keep on digging. Why have a pop at other fans just because they have a different opinion to yours.
You come across as very self righteous. Maybe you should show us your coaching badges & League winners medals to prove you're an expert.
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If even I’m saying Clay was our motm, you just have to accept it’s the truth.
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RedO wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:34 am Ain’t gonna happen, unfortunately.

Ross was raving about him at the meet the manager thing.
Raving 🤔🤔 I must have missed that bit somehow 🤣🤣
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BIGRON wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:54 am
RedO wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:34 am Ain’t gonna happen, unfortunately.

Ross was raving about him at the meet the manager thing.
Raving 🤔🤔 I must have missed that bit somehow 🤣🤣
Ross regularly references the fact he's our top scorer. For me, that's more a reflection on the poor return of our strikers rather than an irrefutable reason to have his name first on the team sheet.

I fear sentiment may be as much to do with it as anything else.
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