Negative line -ups, poor formations and panic substitutions

[Four four two]

With teams below us picking up points, decent managers being appointed and the January window open, its time for the silent majority to speak out and say if things aren't resolved NOW we will sleep walk into relegation. It happening right now and unless we act we will be playing Maidenhead again next year.

No more looking at things through rose tinted glasses. We need good old fashioned points , not soundbites like continuity.

It is purely evident that Embleton is, and never will be, a manager. The points tally is abysmal and only to be expected from the negative line ups and formations that he employs. Playing one up front on his own and isolated is a recipe for disaster in this league. Embleton sets us up not to lose rather than to win and for me any manager that does this simply has to go. The best form of defence is attack but unfortunately this has been lost in Embleton's coaching manuals.

Embleton has stumbled on his best back four but even they cannot withstand 90 minutes of pressure caused by one up front negative line -ups. Ross talks about giving ourselves too much to do in second halves as against Walsall and pulling rabbits out of a hat but it is blatantly obvious that the way he sets up teams causes this ! He is simply inviting teams on.

The transfer window is open but Im not sure whether he can tell a good player from a bad one. How can he persist with Clay and wright when Kyprianou is sitting in the wings and showed more in one game than the other two for a long time ? How could he give Alabi another chance when is he not even National League standard ? Why wlll he definitely select Ling when he gains fitness even though Judd is a far better right back. Why does he play Brophy at left back at every opportunity when he is the only person we have in the entire squad that can actually run at people. Call me old fashioned but Left wing perhaps may suit Brophy ? Why play Soitirou on the left side when he looks to me to be a goal poacher so best with him and Angol in the middle ?

Quite frankly, Ross looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He doesn't know his best team nor formation. 442 perhaps ?Let other teams worry about us for once ? OK , our midfield is weak but lets at least give this a go and try and outscore the opposition. !! Ian Hollloway will be rubbing his hands together next week when once again we are set up not to lose. Same old story. Angel isolated and frustrated up front on his own. Turley and co being heroic yet again but we let in a 75th minute goal. Sorry Ross, i'ts time to go. Only then, can we all breathe a sigh of relief as that basement door is widening while we dither and persist with these abysmal tactics.

[faith1234]

GREAT POST and so true proven manager now

[Thor]

Bang on 442 shame its ling making the decisons and convincing the owners he is right.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

"Silent majority". Silent? Are you kidding me?

[Long slender neck]

Oh good, another moaner.

Alabi ain't played in months.
Fair to throw a kid like Kyprianou in when we're not playing well?
Don't remember brophy playing left back recently.
Judd is unprofessional allegedly and also injured or suspended regularly.
Sotiriou has been playing up front.

[Lucky7]

In fairness Caca Brophy was pushed back to left back for Denis who did zip when he come on also Turley taken off same game vs Wallsall
I do however agree with you re another moaning thread

[Thor]

Where did you get Judd is a poor trainer from?

That could indicate why ling is favoured over him if true.

[Tent Keague]

Ling Snr said that Judd doesn't live his life like a professional footballer should in the Q&A.

[tuffers#1]

Coulson & Mooney & Charlie Lee have questioned his stupidity. Maybe he likes to go out & about as Superstar Footballer.

You know the type

Bit of a big shot .

Used to go to a club in Croydon on a Thursday night with a Girl i was seeing way back when.

Richard Shaw Chris Coleman & 1 or 2 other players .

Most were alright but Richard Shaw

Im a Professional footballer Blah blah blah

What a w*nker

[AckneyAwks]

Obviously you want everyone to be good at training throughout the week But give me a player who does the buisines on a match day anytime. I'm not talking about Judd in particular but part of managing a squad is to get the best out of all individuals which bring positive results in the games themselves. I could name countless players over the years who were poor trainers but absoloute match winners when it counted.
And i wish people would stop having a negative about playing the youngsters. Kyprianou and Satoriou have been two of the most positive things about this season.

[Long slender neck]

Maybe unprofessional would be a better description of Judd. Think Ling said when at the club Judd is great but away from it he doesn't do the right things.

I like to see the youngsters play, just trying to give an explanation as to why they don't always feature.

[Lucky7]

Obviously you want everyone to be good at training throughout the week But give me a player who does the buisines on a match day anytime. I'm not talking about Judd in particular but part of managing a squad is to get the best out of all individuals which bring positive results in the games themselves. I could name countless players over the years who were poor trainers but absoloute match winners when it counted.
And i wish people would stop having a negative about playing the youngsters. Kyprianou and Satoriou have been two of the most positive things about this season.

Ledley King/Paul McGrath hardly trained and neither where that bad on a match day

[EliotNes]

There are no “panic” substitutions IMO. Quite the opposite the coaching three seem to take 5, sometimes 10 mins of discussion once they first decide a sub is needed. I sit behind the team bench and see this most of the time. It’s far too long IMO. And RE is constantly looking at his watch as 70 mins approaches as if that is the magic time to send someone on.

[EliotNes]

Obviously you want everyone to be good at training throughout the week But give me a player who does the buisines on a match day anytime. I'm not talking about Judd in particular but part of managing a squad is to get the best out of all individuals which bring positive results in the games themselves. I could name countless players over the years who were poor trainers but absoloute match winners when it counted.
And i wish people would stop having a negative about playing the youngsters. Kyprianou and Satoriou have been two of the most positive things about this season.

Ledley King/Paul McGrath hardly trained and neither where that bad on a match day

Jimmy Greaves disliked training

[tuffers#1]

Obviously you want everyone to be good at training throughout the week But give me a player who does the buisines on a match day anytime. I'm not talking about Judd in particular but part of managing a squad is to get the best out of all individuals which bring positive results in the games themselves. I could name countless players over the years who were poor trainers but absoloute match winners when it counted.
And i wish people would stop having a negative about playing the youngsters. Kyprianou and Satoriou have been two of the most positive things about this season.

Ledley King/Paul McGrath hardly trained and neither where that bad on a match day

Jimmy Greaves disliked training

Come on Chaps

We are talking about Juddy here , not vreaves ledley or ooh ahh Paul Mcgrath.

3 absolute world class players & a bit of a non league/L2 right back .

Big big difference

[Thor]

Maybe unprofessional would be a better description of Judd. Think Ling said when at the club Judd is great but away from it he doesn't do the right things.

I like to see the youngsters play, just trying to give an explanation as to why they don't always feature.

You’re quite correct in what you say here, I’ve never heard he’s a poor trainer.

My take on lings comments at that time indicated something outside of football, not sure what, but normally it’s gambling or drinking and as he’s young maybe it’s a PlayStation and he’s on it 10 hours a day or something stupid like that. Still it’s a guess cos we don’t know.

[gshaw]

There are no “panic” substitutions IMO. Quite the opposite the coaching three seem to take 5, sometimes 10 mins of discussion once they first decide a sub is needed. I sit behind the team bench and see this most of the time. It’s far too long IMO. And RE is constantly looking at his watch as 70 mins approaches as if that is the magic time to send someone on.

They're panic insomuch as when the substitution eventually comes it's reactive chasing the game rather than proactive spotting an issue early and taking steps to keep us on the front foot.

Good recent example even the commentary at Newport noted how Angol looked disinterested and ineffective yet Embleton didn't sub him. Meanwhile we retreat deeper and deeper as ball kept coming back until a goal went in. By the time he brings Harrold on it's too late and the win has gone.

Agree with the above there's always 10 minutes or so of mothers meeting on the touchline before deciding on something. That's where Embleton lacks leadership to make that decision, management by committee isn't working.

[Four four two]

They are panic substitutions in so much as after being 1 nil down and deliberating to the 75th minute the game plan of the committee seems to be to bung on as many forwards as possible without any thought of the formation. i.e taking Turley off, moving Happe from left back to centre back, moving our left winger Brophy to left back just to accommodate Dennis on the left. This could have all been avoided with a positive line up from the start with two up front. . We end up with our most creative player who can take players on playing at left back ! It defeats the object.

No method, no strategy with players playing out of position trying to salvage a point.

[Lucky7]

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They are panic substitutions in so much as after being 1 nil down and deliberating to the 75th minute the game plan of the committee seems to be to bung on as many forwards as possible without any thought of the formation. i.e taking Turley off, moving Happe from left back to centre back, moving our left winger Brophy to left back just to accommodate Dennis on the left. This could have all been avoided with a positive line up from the start with two up front. . We end up with our most creative player who can take players on playing at left back ! It defeats the object.

No method, no strategy with players playing out of position trying to salvage a point.
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Can’t disagree with that

[Reflecto]

I'm not knowledgeable to have great insights about management but a know what a terrible win ratio look like...

Moaners yes, evidence of poor performance yes and someone who doesn't even want the job! FFS Ling!

[Luna Tic]

You can add all
The players you want like the old owners did but you MUST have a confident know how inspirational manager . If our club appoints Ross , then it’ll be the second awful and poor appointment in 3 months . It will also be very disappointing as I thought they knew their business . Is Ling really pulling all the strings ?
Tisdale should be offered the opportunity

[AckneyAwks]

On a lighter note. I used to work with a guy who was a close friend of Stan Bowles and part of that was driving him around. I dont think Stan drived. Anyway one Saturday morning he told me that he had been out with Stan from Friday evening until early Saturday morning (card school i think)? That Saturday afternoon Stan played for the O's, was M.O.M and as usual was great entertainment for the paying public as usual. People who have supernatural talent and are characters always come to mind when thinking of past players. And NO i am not putting Judd in that category lol!!
P.s I hear things are not good for poor Stan but i send him my love and best wishes. What a talent!

[DonaldRocks]

With teams below us picking up points, decent managers being appointed and the January window open, its time for the silent majority to speak out and say if things aren't resolved NOW we will sleep walk into relegation. It happening right now and unless we act we will be playing Maidenhead again next year.

No more looking at things through rose tinted glasses. We need good old fashioned points , not soundbites like continuity.

It is purely evident that Embleton is, and never will be, a manager. The points tally is abysmal and only to be expected from the negative line ups and formations that he employs. Playing one up front on his own and isolated is a recipe for disaster in this league. Embleton sets us up not to lose rather than to win and for me any manager that does this simply has to go. The best form of defence is attack but unfortunately this has been lost in Embleton's coaching manuals.

Embleton has stumbled on his best back four but even they cannot withstand 90 minutes of pressure caused by one up front negative line -ups. Ross talks about giving ourselves too much to do in second halves as against Walsall and pulling rabbits out of a hat but it is blatantly obvious that the way he sets up teams causes this ! He is simply inviting teams on.

The transfer window is open but Im not sure whether he can tell a good player from a bad one. How can he persist with Clay and wright when Kyprianou is sitting in the wings and showed more in one game than the other two for a long time ? How could he give Alabi another chance when is he not even National League standard ? Why wlll he definitely select Ling when he gains fitness even though Judd is a far better right back. Why does he play Brophy at left back at every opportunity when he is the only person we have in the entire squad that can actually run at people. Call me old fashioned but Left wing perhaps may suit Brophy ? Why play Soitirou on the left side when he looks to me to be a goal poacher so best with him and Angol in the middle ?

Quite frankly, Ross looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He doesn't know his best team nor formation. 442 perhaps ?Let other teams worry about us for once ? OK , our midfield is weak but lets at least give this a go and try and outscore the opposition. !! Ian Hollloway will be rubbing his hands together next week when once again we are set up not to lose. Same old story. Angel isolated and frustrated up front on his own. Turley and co being heroic yet again but we let in a 75th minute goal. Sorry Ross, i'ts time to go. Only then, can we all breathe a sigh of relief as that basement door is widening while we dither and persist with these abysmal tactics.

Spot on.

[Long slender neck]

On a lighter note. I used to work with a guy who was a close friend of Stan Bowles and part of that was driving him around. I dont think Stan drived. Anyway one Saturday morning he told me that he had been out with Stan from Friday evening until early Saturday morning (card school i think)? That Saturday afternoon Stan played for the O's, was M.O.M and as usual was great entertainment for the paying public as usual. People who have supernatural talent and are characters always come to mind when thinking of past players. And NO i am not putting Judd in that category lol!!
P.s I hear things are not good for poor Stan but i send him my love and best wishes. What a talent!

So what is your point?

[AckneyAwks]

Prestige. Why does their have to be a point as i said on a 'lighter note'.