Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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Lacking in
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Courage
Bravery
Voice
Charisma
Leadership

Anything else anyone can think of ?
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So lacking in everything you demand as a given in a pro footballer?
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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El Miz has been Mr Consistent until this season. I don't know what's going on there.

Hayden - Looked like a good signing on paper, but he probably should have called it a day last season.
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Both have been totally underwhelming.
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LECBVCL? I don't get it.
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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PT78 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:19 pm Lacking in
Energy
Courage
Bravery
Voice
Charisma
Leadership

Anything else anyone can think of ?
To think Michael Craig was bombed out . Is he really worse than Hayden ?
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There isnt really much competition for their starting places. Perhaps they just cant do it on a wet and windy weekend in Burton. Where's the hunger, desire, passion?

I'd like to see some strength and tackling primarily in the middle.
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:55 pm
PT78 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:19 pm Lacking in
Energy
Courage
Bravery
Voice
Charisma
Leadership

Anything else anyone can think of ?
To think Michael Craig was bombed out . Is he really worse than Hayden ?
Is anyone worse than Hayden🤔
One saving grace, we didn’t sign him on a three year deal, 2 years but shift him on in the summer
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:55 pm
PT78 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:19 pm Lacking in
Energy
Courage
Bravery
Voice
Charisma
Leadership

Anything else anyone can think of ?
To think Michael Craig was bombed out . Is he really worse than Hayden ?
Never even really got a go in midfield.
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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PKM wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:57 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:55 pm
PT78 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:19 pm Lacking in
Energy
Courage
Bravery
Voice
Charisma
Leadership

Anything else anyone can think of ?
To think Michael Craig was bombed out . Is he really worse than Hayden ?
Is anyone worse than Hayden🤔
One saving grace, we didn’t sign him on a three year deal, 2 years but shift him on in the summer
Plenty of people said his legs had gone before we signed him. Why couldn't the club see that?
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Don't help when you play a left back in midfield
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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Long slender neck wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 6:00 pm
PKM wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:57 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:55 pm

To think Michael Craig was bombed out . Is he really worse than Hayden ?
Is anyone worse than Hayden🤔
One saving grace, we didn’t sign him on a three year deal, 2 years but shift him on in the summer
Plenty of people said his legs had gone before we signed him. Why couldn't the club see that?
Because he’s got a good agent,who pulled the wool over our management team’s eyes!!
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:55 pm
PT78 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:19 pm Lacking in
Energy
Courage
Bravery
Voice
Charisma
Leadership

Anything else anyone can think of ?
To think Michael Craig was bombed out . Is he really worse than Hayden ?
Christ. Things must be really bad. Craig can't even get into a National League sides' first 11.
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Re: Our Midfield Generals Hayden & El Mizouni

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E10quence wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 6:05 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:55 pm
PT78 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:19 pm Lacking in
Energy
Courage
Bravery
Voice
Charisma
Leadership

Anything else anyone can think of ?
To think Michael Craig was bombed out . Is he really worse than Hayden ?
Christ. Things must be really bad. Craig can't even get into a National League sides' first 11.
He started today
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I think miz is a good league one player but overrated big time by Orient fans and Hayden strikes me as the type who has had a big injury or a few smaller ones and never recovered
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Hayden reminds me of when Kevin Nolan came. Forgetting that he was the manager, we all had great hopes. But he was finished as is Hayden
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Long slender neck wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 6:00 pm
PKM wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:57 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 5:55 pm

To think Michael Craig was bombed out . Is he really worse than Hayden ?
Is anyone worse than Hayden🤔
One saving grace, we didn’t sign him on a three year deal, 2 years but shift him on in the summer
Plenty of people said his legs had gone before we signed him. Why couldn't the club see that?
Yes QPR fans said his legs have gone don't we do any player research?
We keep signing unsuitable players.
Levitt was not a wellens player yet he signed him and binned him.
Kabia was said not to be able to play as a loan striker.Yet we paid 800k and did just that.
Are the players trying to get RW sacked?
It would cost a fortune to pay him off.
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Sick of the idea that Richie has players thrusted on him. Does he strike you as that kind of manager??

Every player we have signed under his tenure is completely and utterly 100% down to him. End of f*cking discussion.

Kinda fell sorry for Ling now
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Haydon morris both gruff let's hope Joseph injury is not bad also we have good wingers at the club and not playing them
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Thought they were both very average today. Not sure why they’ve been made scapegoats for today’s result.

Hayden was rightly subbed after an hour as expected. Iddy was out of his feet and should have come off as well but there was no option to replace him.
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Token wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 6:18 pm Hayden reminds me of when Kevin Nolan came. Forgetting that he was the manager, we all had great hopes. But he was finished as is Hayden
I thought exactly the same thing, maybe playing at the very top of English football doesn't necessarily mean you're good enough to handle the pace of lower league football.
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Fellowo wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 6:50 pm
Token wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2026 6:18 pm Hayden reminds me of when Kevin Nolan came. Forgetting that he was the manager, we all had great hopes. But he was finished as is Hayden
I thought exactly the same thing, maybe playing at the very top of English football doesn't necessarily mean you're good enough to handle the pace of lower league football.
Neither of them Have reached the levels of Prats
Maybe we need Jobi on the phone to teach them how to run faster & longer.
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Clubs know now when a player is finished or on the way down before they do, they have so many metrics from matches, training etc, how many sprints in training and at what speed, the really good footballers find a way to adapt as they are slowing down or losing physcality

Prats was still ace for us, as he was super fit, a leader and knew what he could and couldn't do
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Thinking back to some midfield generals in the past like Stephen Dawson, Steve Castle and many others who would give 100% and more……….and more recently Jordan Brown………oh for one of them today.
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