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Re: Trump Watch 2.0

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CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:35 am Once they goose step, goose stepping will magically go from an obvious sign that they’re nazis naziing about to being bad optics, the motives of which are a head scratcher
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Re: Trump Watch 2.0

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what’s interesting - and damning of a couple of this messageboard’s c***s - is that the whole point of these symbols is for those who use them (and attempt to contextualise or downplay them) to essentially take the piss. It’s an attempted show of strength.

Though in reality it shows weakness. Red Dwarf for example doesn’t have the actual balls to say “it’s a Nazi salute, and you know what? I like the cut of their jib”, so instead he disgraces himself by adopting what he knows is implausible - “I don’t know why they do it but it’s bad optics” even though he actually knows that by downplaying, he’s making excuses for actual nazis
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If the actions and stated aims of the people making these salutes didn't match with fascism then it would be dismissed as a dumb gesture.

But we can all (well, mostly all) see that the salute fits them like a glove.
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Re: Trump Watch 2.0

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 9:43 pm Your guess is as good as mine .God's knows what they are thinking . I did wonder what Elon Musk said in defence about his salute . He denied making a Nazi salute . He claimed he meant " My heart goes out to you ". If that really was the case then the optics of that looked terrible. What would have been better is if he made a heart shape with his two index fingers and thumbs and pointed at the crowed . Anyway , yes I agree it looked bad .

Oh do f*** off. It was a Nazi salute. End of discussion. Either you support him doing that, or you don’t. There’s no middle ground, no grey areas on this.

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Re: Trump Watch 2.0

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CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:20 am for those who use them (and attempt to contextualise or downplay them) to essentially take the piss. It’s an attempted show of strength.
Yeah Musk’s Twitter denials reminded me of when those two Russians poisoned the guy and then said they were in Salisbury to see the cathedral.

The obvious lie wasn’t a slip up on their point, it was meant to be implausible.

It’s a flex
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Re: Trump Watch 2.0

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CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:20 am what’s interesting - and damning of a couple of this messageboard’s c***s - is that the whole point of these symbols is for those who use them (and attempt to contextualise or downplay them) to essentially take the piss. It’s an attempted show of strength.

Though in reality it shows weakness. Red Dwarf for example doesn’t have the actual balls to say “it’s a Nazi salute, and you know what? I like the cut of their jib”, so instead he disgraces himself by adopting what he knows is implausible - “I don’t know why they do it but it’s bad optics” even though he actually knows that by downplaying, he’s making excuses for actual nazis
Ermm, yes it's a nazi salute . Sorry if I didn't make myself clear .
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The ol' nazi saluting thing is too much. Even for me.
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Re: Trump Watch 2.0

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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:14 pm
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:20 am what’s interesting - and damning of a couple of this messageboard’s c***s - is that the whole point of these symbols is for those who use them (and attempt to contextualise or downplay them) to essentially take the piss. It’s an attempted show of strength.

Though in reality it shows weakness. Red Dwarf for example doesn’t have the actual balls to say “it’s a Nazi salute, and you know what? I like the cut of their jib”, so instead he disgraces himself by adopting what he knows is implausible - “I don’t know why they do it but it’s bad optics” even though he actually knows that by downplaying, he’s making excuses for actual nazis
Ermm, yes it's a nazi salute . Sorry if I didn't make myself clear .

I didn’t say you denied that it’s a Nazi salute. I’m asking why you maintain “I don’t know what they’re thinking” rather than accepting that there’s a very obvious reason they’d do a Nazi salute, and that that reason should spur you to make it absolutely clear that any support you have given to those people was misguided, and so you retract it
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Dunners wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:20 pm The ol' nazi saluting thing is too much. Even for me.
Dumped your TSLA holding or waiting until the new tax year ?
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Hoover Attack wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:11 pm
Dunners wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:20 pm The ol' nazi saluting thing is too much. Even for me.
Dumped your TSLA holding or waiting until the new tax year ?
I'm thinking I might go long as that way I can exercise my shareholder rights and try and change things from the inside.
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CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:20 am what’s interesting - and damning of a couple of this messageboard’s c***s - is that the whole point of these symbols is for those who use them (and attempt to contextualise or downplay them) to essentially take the piss. It’s an attempted show of strength.

Though in reality it shows weakness. Red Dwarf for example doesn’t have the actual balls to say “it’s a Nazi salute, and you know what? I like the cut of their jib”, so instead he disgraces himself by adopting what he knows is implausible - “I don’t know why they do it but it’s bad optics” even though he actually knows that by downplaying, he’s making excuses for actual nazis
So they're doing these salutes as a wind up?
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Nazi salute there from Bannon. Same from Musk. This is getting seriously dark now.

Projections from today's general election vote in Germany of far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) expected to become the second biggest force in the country.

These folks sure are learning the wrong lessons from history.
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I really want Liz Truss to give ot a go, mainly because she'd almost certainly poke herself in the eye and then send the microphone flying.
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:lofc:
Dunners wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:16 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:11 pm
Dunners wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:20 pm The ol' nazi saluting thing is too much. Even for me.
Dumped your TSLA holding or waiting until the new tax year ?
I'm thinking I might go long as that way I can exercise my shareholder rights and try and change things from the inside.

I’m stealing that to silence my conscience 👍
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Today marks three years since Russia invaded Ukraine . I stand fully with Ukraine . I think we would all agree Putin is a paranoid Cnut . On this issue I think Trump is wrong and bang out of order . However although I think the Ukrainian army is lion hearted , I can't see them winning this war on the battle field . Therefore how do we get a peace deal ? . In an ideal world Russia would retreat and pull their troops back to Russia but unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world
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Re: Trump Watch 2.0

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CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:36 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:14 pm
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:20 am what’s interesting - and damning of a couple of this messageboard’s c***s - is that the whole point of these symbols is for those who use them (and attempt to contextualise or downplay them) to essentially take the piss. It’s an attempted show of strength.

Though in reality it shows weakness. Red Dwarf for example doesn’t have the actual balls to say “it’s a Nazi salute, and you know what? I like the cut of their jib”, so instead he disgraces himself by adopting what he knows is implausible - “I don’t know why they do it but it’s bad optics” even though he actually knows that by downplaying, he’s making excuses for actual nazis
Ermm, yes it's a nazi salute . Sorry if I didn't make myself clear .

I didn’t say you denied that it’s a Nazi salute. I’m asking why you maintain “I don’t know what they’re thinking” rather than accepting that there’s a very obvious reason they’d do a Nazi salute, and that that reason should spur you to make it absolutely clear that any support you have given to those people was misguided, and so you retract it


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oxo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:03 pm
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:20 am for those who use them (and attempt to contextualise or downplay them) to essentially take the piss. It’s an attempted show of strength.
Yeah Musk’s Twitter denials reminded me of when those two Russians poisoned the guy and then said they were in Salisbury to see the cathedral.

The obvious lie wasn’t a slip up on their point, it was meant to be implausible.

It’s a flex
Yes but don't forget, when those Russians were questioned they knew the exact height of the cathedral. I mean, who would know that? So something tells me they had a genuine interest in historical buildings in the UK..
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Chief crazy horse wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:59 pm
oxo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:03 pm
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:20 am for those who use them (and attempt to contextualise or downplay them) to essentially take the piss. It’s an attempted show of strength.
Yeah Musk’s Twitter denials reminded me of when those two Russians poisoned the guy and then said they were in Salisbury to see the cathedral.

The obvious lie wasn’t a slip up on their point, it was meant to be implausible.

It’s a flex
Yes but don't forget, when those Russians were questioned they knew the exact height of the cathedral. I mean, who would know that? So something tells me they had a genuine interest in historical buildings in the UK..
That was actually quite farcically . Even our guy from MI5 said that was embarrassing.
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I have for some time wondered whether Trump is actually illiterate.
There was the occasion when he was due to sign an important agreement in view of the media. I watched this and was quite shocked that he looked at this several page document, with his finger moving along the first few lines, mumbling along and then abandoning the task, handing the papers to somebody else.
Today Starmer handed him the letter from Charles with invitation for a state visit. Trump opened it, looked at it.
Then the letter was back in Starmer's hands who read it out to him.
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E10EU wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:21 am I have for some time wondered whether Trump is actually illiterate.
There was the occasion when he was due to sign an important agreement in view of the media. I watched this and was quite shocked that he looked at this several page document, with his finger moving along the first few lines, mumbling along and then abandoning the task, handing the papers to somebody else.
Today Starmer handed him the letter from Charles with invitation for a state visit. Trump opened it, looked at it.
Then the letter was back in Starmer's hands who read it out to him.
Those are just controlling techniques of the ultra narcissist.

He's not a dummy. Don't ever think he's a dummy. But remember he's a front man.
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E10EU wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:21 am I have for some time wondered whether Trump is actually illiterate.
There was the occasion when he was due to sign an important agreement in view of the media. I watched this and was quite shocked that he looked at this several page document, with his finger moving along the first few lines, mumbling along and then abandoning the task, handing the papers to somebody else.
Today Starmer handed him the letter from Charles with invitation for a state visit. Trump opened it, looked at it.
Then the letter was back in Starmer's hands who read it out to him.
Also my first reaction to the King’s letter.
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Has Charlie boy withdrawn the offer of a state visit after that?
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I hope not. As awful as everything is, you must be relishing the spectacle of what this state visit will be. It's going to be bants.
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Is Vlad coming as well?
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Might as well.
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