UK Court system

[Proposition Joe]

Nothing new to say it's broken but I was due to be a witness in a trial starting next month. Bad enough that the alleged offence took place in September 2017, but it's just been cancelled and rescheduled for OCTOBER 2026.

Absolutely absurd and, tbh, completely unfair on the accused as much as anyone. Can see them scrapping the whole thing at this rate and it's terrifying to think how many others are in this situation, being denied justice or a chance to clear their names for almost a decade. And, of course, the new Govt showing no inclination to actually carry out proper reform required.

[Hoover Attack]

Absolutely absurd and, tbh, completely unfair on the accused as much as anyone. Can see them scrapping the whole thing at this rate and it's terrifying to think how many others are in this situation, being denied justice or a chance to clear their names for almost a decade.

So you've already decided they're innocent? Disgusting.

[Proposition Joe]

I'm a witness for the prosecution, so no.

[Dunners]

The court system, law enforcement, education, health, housing, railways, general infrastructure... It's all f*cked. You can see why gilts are going the way they have been.

[Admin]

Nothing new to say it's broken but I was due to be a witness in a trial starting next month. Bad enough that the alleged offence took place in September 2017, but it's just been cancelled and rescheduled for OCTOBER 2026.

Absolutely absurd and, tbh, completely unfair on the accused as much as anyone. Can see them scrapping the whole thing at this rate and it's terrifying to think how many others are in this situation, being denied justice or a chance to clear their names for almost a decade. And, of course, the new Govt showing no inclination to actually carry out proper reform required.

Had a similar experience recently as a prosecution witness. Gave my statement in 2019 but case wasn't heard until last year. Hung jury in first trial, second trial collapsed. The justice service is in complete disarray.

[Max B Gold]

There is no justice system in the UK. We have a legal system. There's a big difference.

[DuvB]

I was recently on a jury. The trial needed a translator for the main witness and the accused. It should have taken 5 days. It took 12 days because of the translation. Pathetic

[Hoover Attack]

Did you find the accused guilty because they couldn't speak proper English?

[BoniO]

The court system, law enforcement, education, health, housing, railways, general infrastructure... It's all f*cked. You can see why gilts are going the way they have been.

.... and why it's the perfect time for the rise of the far right

[Long slender neck]

Hitler made the trains run on time, but do you reckon he could fix the NHS?

[Max B Gold]

Hitler made the trains run on time, but do you reckon he could fix the NHS?

He's dead mate. So no.

Wasn't it Mussolini who made the trains run on time and Adolf did the Autobahns and extermination camps.

[Long slender neck]

Oh. Whats this Mussolini guy up to nowadays then? CDAJ?

[George M]

I was recently on a jury. The trial needed a translator for the main witness and the accused. It should have taken 5 days. It took 12 days because of the translation. Pathetic

I had the same at Snaresbrook. A Romanian father accused of sexually abusing his own children. Translating every word from and to him doubled court time. It’s common and costs millions more throughout the UK . Is it any wonder our schools and hospitals are underfunded

[Max B Gold]

Oh. Whats this Mussolini guy up to nowadays then? CDAJ?

No sure. Last seen hanging about the village of Giulino di Mezzegra and then Milan.

[Wally Banter]

Curious to understand how much blame is being levelled at non-English speakers for the absolute shambles of our justice system. How much of a factor are you claiming it to be, George?

[George M]

Curious to understand how much blame is being levelled at non-English speakers for the absolute shambles of our justice system. How much of a factor are you claiming it to be, George?

Proportionate. I expect it’s the same in many European countries. I also believe that not speaking English in a court could help your case . Confusion caused by translation and general jury boredom may be an issue. Just my view having experienced it.

[Proposition Joe]

Genuinely interested to know if there's a single thing going wrong in this country that can't just be lazily blamed on "forrins".

[George M]

Genuinely interested to know if there's a single thing going wrong in this country that can't just be lazily blamed on "forrins".

It’s not lazy but it is part of the problem. We will never be told the enormity of the part or otherwise through fear of lazily being targeted as racist

[Hoover Attack]

Hitler made the trains run on time, but do you reckon he could fix the NHS?

He's dead mate.

Is it, tho?

[Hoover Attack]

Genuinely interested to know if there's a single thing going wrong in this country that can't just be lazily blamed on "forrins".

It’s not lazy but it is part of the problem. We will never be told the enormity of the part or otherwise through fear of lazily being targeted as racist

You won't be told the enormity of the part or otherwise because then you'd have to find another target ie the wealthy.

[DuvB]

Did you find the accused guilty because they couldn't speak proper English?

Guy was accused of 5 rapes over 3 dates. Long story but Hell Hath No Fury Like a Woman Scorned. Not guilty. Perjury? Who knows.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Did you find the accused guilty because they couldn't speak proper English?

Guy was accused of 5 rapes over 3 dates. Long story but Hell Hath No Fury Like a Woman Scorned. Not guilty. Perjury? Who knows.

Any translators in here?

[Long slender neck]

The court system, law enforcement, education, health, housing, railways, general infrastructure... It's all f*cked. You can see why gilts are going the way they have been.

Why arent we building what we need? Surely it'd be good for the economy? Or can we just not afford it?

[Frogger]

I was recently on a jury. The trial needed a translator for the main witness and the accused. It should have taken 5 days. It took 12 days because of the translation. Pathetic

sounds like you needed a better translator, have they tried the translate app on the iPhone?

[EliotNes]

Gave a statement to the Environment Agency in summer 2019 for an environmental case where they said they intended to press charges (not against me, I hasten to add). Chased it up last year just in case the case had been dealt with and my statement/me appearing was no longer needed. I was told that evidence was still being collected due to the complexity of the case and a final decision had not been made yet whether to press charges or not. The incident happened in 2018.