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So while the media is now focussed on this escalation of Israel's 'military operations' their continued genocide of Palestinians in Gaza is off the headlines ....
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E10EU wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:27 pm So while the media is now focussed on this escalation of Israel's 'military operations' their continued genocide of Palestinians in Gaza is off the headlines ....
It wasn't a military operation it was an act of terrorism.
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:51 pm Another 14 Hezbollah terrorists killed by exploding radios with 450 further injured. Are they doing all their procurement from Mossad directly?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyl9048gx8t
Lucky none of these were on passenger planes at the time
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Re: Israel

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George M wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:11 am
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:51 pm Another 14 Hezbollah terrorists killed by exploding radios with 450 further injured. Are they doing all their procurement from Mossad directly?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyl9048gx8t
Lucky none of these were on passenger planes at the time
Lucky too none of them were children or civilians. But wait, that doesn't matter anyway to a genocidal terrorist state.
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Hezbollah are a designated terrorist organisation with genocidal intent towards Israel and Jews.

They have fired rockets into northern Israel on an almost daily basis since October 7th, often with tragic consequences.

Hopefully they might think twice about doing that now.
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faldO wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:21 am Hezbollah are a designated terrorist organisation with genocidal intent towards Israel and Jews.

They have fired rockets into northern Israel on an almost daily basis since October 7th, often with tragic consequences.

Hopefully they might think twice about doing that now.
They won’t and why should they.
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Surprised the cranks are failing to see the funny side of terrosists getting their bollocks blown off Four Lions style
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faldO wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:21 am Hezbollah are a designated terrorist organisation with genocidal intent towards Israel and Jews.

They have fired rockets into northern Israel on an almost daily basis since October 7th, often with tragic consequences.

Hopefully they might think twice about doing that now.
They'll fire more. Do you not know how things work in the ME? I don't see you condemning the Israeli terrorism that this war crime constitutes. Why is that?
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Max B Gold wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:45 pm [I don't see you condemning the Israeli terrorism that this war crime constitutes. Why is that?
I don't see you condemning the firing of thousands of rockets by Hezbollah into Israel, which have killed children.

I don't need to ask why that is though, as you likely view the Hezbollah terrorists as freedom fighters, like you do Hamas, and you consider their actions justified.
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faldO wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:14 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:45 pm [I don't see you condemning the Israeli terrorism that this war crime constitutes. Why is that?
I don't see you condemning the firing of thousands of rockets by Hezbollah into Israel, which have killed children.

I don't need to ask why that is though, as you likely view the Hezbollah terrorists as freedom fighters, like you do Hamas, and you consider their actions justified.
Incorrect on both points. You're having a mare mate.

So let's clear this up. Are you condemning this terrorist war crime carried out by the Israel state or not?
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Huge difference between striking individual terrorists and the random cross border barrage of scores of Iranian supplied missiles. Seems fairly transparent imo.
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Orient Punxx wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:33 pm Huge difference between striking individual terrorists and the random cross border barrage of scores of Iranian supplied missiles. Seems fairly transparent imo.
Or indeed the indiscriminate bombing of women and children in Gaza with rockets, bombs, and artillery.
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Indeed, although Hamas knew what they were provoking on 7/10/23
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Currywurst and Chips wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:13 pm Surprised the cranks are failing to see the funny side of terrosists getting their bollocks blown off Four Lions style
Was it just terrorists that got blown up? Phew.
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Hoover Attack wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:07 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:13 pm Surprised the cranks are failing to see the funny side of terrosists getting their bollocks blown off Four Lions style
Was it just terrorists that got blown up? Phew.
Well, it was who the Israelis defined as terrorists, so not necessarily the same thing.
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Orient Punxx wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:02 pm Indeed, although Hamas knew what they were provoking on 7/10/23
"Provoking" mate read some history. Since 1948 and before the zionists have stolen and occupied someone elses land . You might say that is the ultimate provocation.

Please don't defend the actions of a genocidal land grabbing state. Its not defendable.
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My history book goes back a bit further than 1948. Although I have a slight bias for the period 1882-2024.
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I agree with very little of what Israel does - in the same way I disagree about the manner in which Iran involves itself in the politics of these political groups. I feel very sorry for the people in Gaza; those who just want to be ordinary but are becoming more militant as a result of Israel's actions. All of these can lead to no good.

I am however, a little bit in awe of the sneaky Israeli's with their ingenuity. To have survived as long as they have, surrounded by enemies, has meant they have to think of new ways to survive. Pagers and walkie-talkies, used by those who want to plot against them, manufactured and distributed into the enemy population and triggered to explode. Bloody sneaky - top level sneaky.
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LittleMate wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:39 pm Pagers and walkie-talkies, used by those who want to plot against them, manufactured and distributed into the enemy population and triggered to explode. Bloody sneaky - top level sneaky.
Sold to the enemy population. You've got to see the funny side in that the Hezbollah fascists actually paid for these devices too. Probably with Iran's money. I can just picture the mullahs in Tehran going full-on OFF.
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Hoover Attack wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:07 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:13 pm Surprised the cranks are failing to see the funny side of terrosists getting their bollocks blown off Four Lions style
Was it just terrorists that got blown up? Phew.
Mainly. But it would also be unrealistic to expect there to not be any civilian collateral. And this kind of attack is less likely to result in civilian casualties than any rocket bombardment.

It also results in fewer enemy deaths, which means that even more of the baddies get to live. Although, the higher survival rate coupled with their injuries ties up more resources and stresses enemy systems to a much greater degree. So I can see why the usual suspects are fumin'.
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Re: Israel

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This would’ve had all the makings of a great Hollywood slapstick film 15 years ago starring Adam Sandler and Zach Galifianakis

A plan by Israel so hilarious it’s comical but they manage to get the idea from a Russian defector, General Bolockov who planned a similar attack during the Cold War to target the American government.
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Re: Israel

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Dunners wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:10 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:07 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:13 pm Surprised the cranks are failing to see the funny side of terrosists getting their bollocks blown off Four Lions style
Was it just terrorists that got blown up? Phew.
Mainly. But it would also be unrealistic to expect there to not be any civilian collateral. And this kind of attack is less likely to result in civilian casualties than any rocket bombardment.

It also results in fewer enemy deaths, which means that even more of the baddies get to live. Although, the higher survival rate coupled with their injuries ties up more resources and stresses enemy systems to a much greater degree. So I can see why the usual suspects are fumin'.
I get it now. Hez/Hamas terrorism = bad.

Israeli state terrorism = good
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Re: Israel

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Killing civilians = bad
Killing terrorists = good
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Re: Israel

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Long slender neck wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:25 pm Killing civilians = bad
Killing terrorists = good
Well, Israel wins the top one by a very, very long way.
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