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I’ve followed the crank flow chart in response to this and it’s told me to try and pick holes in it first. Then when that argument isn’t effective point out it doesn't go far enough and engage in whatabouterry
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Don't forget Palestine. You have to end up there at some point, or there'll be hell to pay.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:02 pm
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That's good. So it might be better than I thought it was going to be.
Of course once the Red Tory funders and landlords in Parliament water it down it will not be worth having or won't go far enough to protect tenants.
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Good question! Starmer and Reeves are now devoted to their mission for 'austerity'. They blame the Tories for the horrendous damages inficted by austerity but then their plan for repairing those horrenduous damages is more austerity! No wonder that under their leadership the Labour party gained big sponsors who previously filled the election coffers for the Tories.
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Yes, it's a strange coincidence that the neoliberal policies of the Blue Tories are being continued by the neoliberal Red Tories. It's almost as if they are two sides of the same coin.E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:12 amGood question! Starmer and Reeves are now devoted to their mission for 'austerity'. They blame the Tories for the horrendous damages inficted by austerity but then their plan for repairing those horrenduous damages is more austerity! No wonder that under their leadership the Labour party gained big sponsors who previously filled the election coffers for the Tories.
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Oooft!! Another pumping at the ballot box for the Red Tories. At this rate they won't last five months never mind five years.
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Labour poll lead plummets after winter fuel betrayal
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/ke ... d181&ei=14
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On the brightside the money saved has been handed out to Ukraine so that as pensioners die of hypothermia in the UK their counterparts in Russian cities can join them as the rockets we paid for rain down on them.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 12:01 pm Labour poll lead plummets after winter fuel betrayal
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Perhaps because the single person with only one income, less rubbish, no children at school, costs less to the council, than multi-earning families.
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That's why a Community Charge (Poll Tax) is much fairer.Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 2:02 pmPerhaps because the single person with only one income, less rubbish, no children at school, costs less to the council, than multi-earning families.
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Labour fail to act against bullying and misogyny.
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Even odder to see the "left" support euthanasing the elderly and arming a genocide. I'm not sure what your definition of left is these days.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 1:43 pm Always odd when the 'left' end up parroting the same lines as Maga types.
You seem unable to deal with the contradiction other than to suggest the "Left" is in league with the right. It is possible to reject war and robbing the poor at the same time.
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It isn't possible for Ukraine to reject war. They are being invaded. We are giving them the tools to repel colonisation and occupation. And aside from the obvious principle of that, appeasement with Russia will cost far, far more down the line. They will not stop at Ukraine if they are allowed to win.
Haven't at any point defended the winter fuel allowance cut.
Haven't at any point defended the winter fuel allowance cut.
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So may as well start the real war against Russia on Monday next week.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:10 pm It isn't possible for Ukraine to reject war. They are being invaded. We are giving them the tools to repel colonisation and occupation. And aside from the obvious principle of that, appeasement with Russia will cost far, far more down the line. They will not stop at Ukraine if they are allowed to win.
Haven't at any point defended the winter fuel allowance cut.
Nobody is denying Ukraine has a right to self defence but that right does not extend to escalating the war into a full blown world wide conflict.
There needs to be negotiation not escalation and if in those negotiations Ukraine surrenders sovereignty over contested territory then that is the price of world peace for a few more years. Until of course the West escalates with China.
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And what about the rights of landlords - decent people trying to make a living.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:32 pmThat's good. So it might be better than I thought it was going to be.
Of course once the Red Tory funders and landlords in Parliament water it down it will not be worth having or won't go far enough to protect tenants.
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Perhaps you need to discuss ‘negotiation’ with your communist comrades who continue to invade the sovereign territory of another country and kill civilians with wanton abandon.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:24 pmSo may as well start the real war against Russia on Monday next week.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:10 pm It isn't possible for Ukraine to reject war. They are being invaded. We are giving them the tools to repel colonisation and occupation. And aside from the obvious principle of that, appeasement with Russia will cost far, far more down the line. They will not stop at Ukraine if they are allowed to win.
Haven't at any point defended the winter fuel allowance cut.
Nobody is denying Ukraine has a right to self defence but that right does not extend to escalating the war into a full blown world wide conflict.
There needs to be negotiation not escalation and if in those negotiations Ukraine surrenders sovereignty over contested territory then that is the price of world peace for a few more years. Until of course the West escalates with China.
Maybe this salient point does not occur to you or that escalation is all on Russia’s hands not Ukraine’s.
Of course, the alternative is you know all this but choose to make provocative comments to add flavour to your humdrum cabby existence.
We’ll never know.
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ChorizO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 2:01 pmAnd what about the rights of landlords - decent people trying to make a living.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:32 pmThat's good. So it might be better than I thought it was going to be.
Of course once the Red Tory funders and landlords in Parliament water it down it will not be worth having or won't go far enough to protect tenants.
Landlords are not ‘making a living’.
They’re simply getting some poor sod to pay their mortgage for them. And some.
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Landlordism is a scourge on society and needs to be eliminated. Making a passive living of the backs of workers because of property rights isn't making a living.ChorizO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 2:01 pmAnd what about the rights of landlords - decent people trying to make a living.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:32 pmThat's good. So it might be better than I thought it was going to be.
Of course once the Red Tory funders and landlords in Parliament water it down it will not be worth having or won't go far enough to protect tenants.
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Haha Russia is communist. Imbecile.ChorizO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 2:06 pmPerhaps you need to discuss ‘negotiation’ with your communist comrades who continue to invade the sovereign territory of another country and kill civilians with wanton abandon.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:24 pmSo may as well start the real war against Russia on Monday next week.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:10 pm It isn't possible for Ukraine to reject war. They are being invaded. We are giving them the tools to repel colonisation and occupation. And aside from the obvious principle of that, appeasement with Russia will cost far, far more down the line. They will not stop at Ukraine if they are allowed to win.
Haven't at any point defended the winter fuel allowance cut.
Nobody is denying Ukraine has a right to self defence but that right does not extend to escalating the war into a full blown world wide conflict.
There needs to be negotiation not escalation and if in those negotiations Ukraine surrenders sovereignty over contested territory then that is the price of world peace for a few more years. Until of course the West escalates with China.
Maybe this salient point does not occur to you or that escalation is all on Russia’s hands not Ukraine’s.
Of course, the alternative is you know all this but choose to make provocative comments to add flavour to your humdrum cabby existence.
We’ll never know.
You talk about sovereign territory like you know what it means. Much of the territory is historically contested by both parties and some thought has to be given to the protection of ethnic Russians in Ukraine.
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Get a proper job and stop hoarding propertiesChorizO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 2:01 pmAnd what about the rights of landlords - decent people trying to make a living.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:32 pmThat's good. So it might be better than I thought it was going to be.
Of course once the Red Tory funders and landlords in Parliament water it down it will not be worth having or won't go far enough to protect tenants.
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David Lammy has suggested that multi-millionnaire Keir Starmer and his wife accepted thousands of pounds worth of clothing and gifts from Lord Alli because there's no way to get taxpayers to pay for them.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-lammy-c ... 34432.html
"I’ve just come back from the United States, where US presidents and First Ladies have a huge budget, paid for by the taxpayer, so that they look their best on behalf of the US people. We don’t have that system over here."
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-lammy-c ... 34432.html
"I’ve just come back from the United States, where US presidents and First Ladies have a huge budget, paid for by the taxpayer, so that they look their best on behalf of the US people. We don’t have that system over here."