The trans debate

[Orient till I die M]

No one cares didn’t you realise that after your long essay the other day.

[Long slender neck]

25 pages says otherwise.

[BoniO]

But 24 pages were written by CEB

[Orient till I die M]

25 pages says otherwise.

Don’t you run this message board ? Do you love talking about gender neutral kids to or do you prefer football ?

[Long slender neck]

I am capable of talking about multiple subjects.

[CEB]

25 pages says otherwise.

Don’t you run this message board ? Do you love talking about gender neutral kids to or do you prefer football ?

If you don’t like talking about it, don’t click on the thread.

For your information, though, if you bothered to read, my interest in this subject is that as someone who has worked with kids for 22 years, I believe that organisations that want to pump kids full of hormones without knowing the effects, are wrong, and that the fact that it’s happened is scandalous.
I talk about it where I can because actually getting these organisations held to account relies on people knowing what is happening at them.

Feel free to read the first page of this thread, where plenty of people are saying that this clinic should be trusted to know what it’s doing.

Or talk about football. Up to you.

[Orient till I die M]

25 pages says otherwise.

Don’t you run this message board ? Do you love talking about gender neutral kids to or do you prefer football ?

If you don’t like talking about it, don’t click on the thread.

For your information, though, if you bothered to read, my interest in this subject is that as someone who has worked with kids for 22 years, I believe that organisations that want to pump kids full of hormones without knowing the effects, are wrong, and that the fact that it’s happened is scandalous.
I talk about it where I can because actually getting these organisations held to account relies on people knowing what is happening at them.

Feel free to read the first page of this thread, where plenty of people are saying that this clinic should be trusted to know what it’s doing.

Or talk about football. Up to you.

Ok fair enough the whole subject really angers me but your right I should of read or understood your point of view.

[CEB]

No worries - I get that as a subject it’s weird; the reason I care is because there’s kids I’ve worked with that these arseholes would have pumped full of puberty blockers, later on hormones, and then mutilated them. It makes me very angry.

And I talk about it lots because before I did, the “progressive” take on this forum was this guy, who posted this in defence of the Tavistock gender identity clinic. I haven’t seen a better “how it started/how it’s going” than this

[Orient till I die M]

No worries - I get that as a subject it’s weird; the reason I care is because there’s kids I’ve worked with that these arseholes would have pumped full of puberty blockers, later on hormones, and then mutilated them. It makes me very angry.

And I talk about it lots because before I did, the “progressive” take on this forum was this guy, who posted this in defence of the Tavistock gender identity clinic. I haven’t seen a better “how it started/how it’s going” than this

Yes you are 100% right it’s scandalous, sorry for the immature name calling and thanks for talking and fighting for the better of our children. Especially when this message board is Leyton orient which is a family club

[CEB]

I’m no stranger to immature name calling, don’t worry about it cheers

[Long slender neck]

Morning class

[greyhound]

Morning class

shows you how stupid some people look.
as for the school letting some idiot teach that
shows how far brain dead people in authority have become.

[The Mindsweep]

One of those wears a mask outside and takes it off inside type of people.

[Dunners]

#bekind

[CEB]

Trans activism has its knockers, but I agree with Brendan on this - everything about her presents as female.

[Ron Waffle]

Surely the mental state of someone presenting themselves like that has to be questioned and therefore their suitability to be in a teaching role ?

[greyhound]

Surely the mental state of someone presenting themselves like that has to be questioned and therefore their suitability to be in a teaching role ?

all the school had to do was have a quite word
saying its not quite the dress we agree with can you just
tone it down.
instead of looking like an over inflated blow up doll.

[CEB]

Surely the mental state of someone presenting themselves like that has to be questioned and therefore their suitability to be in a teaching role ?

all the school had to do was have a quite word
saying its not quite the dress we agree with can you just
tone it down.
instead of looking like an over inflated blow up doll.

I don’t think you understand quite how litigious trans activism is, nor how completely they have, where self ID is enshrined in law, made it impossible to address blatant issues like this.
Try it - on what grounds would you suggest this guy “tones it down”? I’ll tell you how the person who says it ends up losing their job

[Dunners]

Companies and establishments are too nervous to challenge such obvious wrongness in case the fall foul of the morality police. And they'll have had their induction training and policies recently rubber-stamped by some self-appointed custodians of progressive virtue and will not want to be stripped of their medals.

Corporate wokeism is so much more convenient for them that basic principles, such as fair pay and conditions.

[CEB]

The key thing is - a “cis” woman with large pendulous breasts would not face sanctions for having very large breasts and wearing a cardigan over the top of it.
So any sanctions against this guy would amount to discriminating against a woman who happens to be trans. Because by what standard do we police how large a woman’s breasts are allowed to be? And trans women are more vulnerable to being policed like this because she is trying to alleviate distress of being in the wrong body - the body that feels right for her has massive tits.

This is what happens when you say “trans women are women” without thinking through the implications of it.

[Long slender neck]

At least wear a bra though.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

At least wear a bra though.

Sexist

[Max Fowler]

Companies and establishments are too nervous to challenge such obvious wrongness

How is having massive tits 'obvious wrongness', fake or real?

It's very silly, sure but wrong?

[Long slender neck]

Isnt it sexist for a man to dress like that?

[Dunners]

Companies and establishments are too nervous to challenge such obvious wrongness

How is having massive tits 'obvious wrongness', fake or real?

It's very silly, sure but wrong?

Quite right. Absolutely nothing wrong with that at all. Just a bit silly.