West Side Story wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:04 am
Well last night, I was doubting his motives. But the more responsible Press is saying that there are very many more disgruntled people in the Labour Party affected by anti-Semitism, now coming forward. As Harold Wilson once said "A week is a long time in politics".
As for the paedo's, Watson was misled by Carl Beech, but so were many others. We all know about Saville and I am sure quite a few others in high places have abused their position eg Cyril Smith. Also take a look at the story of the lady who acted as responsible adult for Fred West. She said that he spouted on about Paedo Rings with people in high places and it also came out in the trial of Dopey Rosie, that she used to service the local Ole Bill.
Israel/Palestine does seem an obsession with some on the left. Maybe because the roots of the issue (and the Israeli State) are tied closely to European history and intertwined both with WW2 and British Colonialism.
As for Watson, I’m never quite sure what he’s playing at or what he wants to achieve. Seems like a disruptive useful idiot for the neoliberals to me.
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 am
Funny how the anti-Zionists are mute when it comes to Iran, Syria, Zimbabwe and all the other countries with human rights issues.
I wonder what sets Israel apart from those countries?
Couldn't give a rats arse about those countries, It's what's happening to a political party being led by a racist in this country. Corblimy is so toxic he is destroying the labour party and the left are so blind as to what's going on and intolerant of anybody who disagrees with they're line of thinking
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 am
Funny how the anti-Zionists are mute when it comes to Iran, Syria, Zimbabwe and all the other countries with human rights issues.
I wonder what sets Israel apart from those countries?
Couldn't give a rats arse about those countries, It's what's happening to a political party being led by a racist in this country. Corblimy is so toxic he is destroying the labour party and the left are so blind as to what's going on and intolerant of anybody who disagrees with they're line of thinking
Of course you can’t - you have no empathy for others. That makes you a perfect fit with Boris, Phillip Green, Farage and the other real purveyors of toxicity.
I don’t think you would even sense what toxic is if you visited Chernobyl - unlikely to happen mind you as that is in a foreign country.
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 am
Funny how the anti-Zionists are mute when it comes to Iran, Syria, Zimbabwe and all the other countries with human rights issues.
I wonder what sets Israel apart from those countries?
Couldn't give a rats arse about those countries, It's what's happening to a political party being led by a racist in this country. Corblimy is so toxic he is destroying the labour party and the left are so blind as to what's going on and intolerant of anybody who disagrees with they're line of thinking
I am one of those toxic lefties and have been for 50 years and proud of it.
Strange how the Membership is still growing
I might not agree with your views but you have every right to air them
We the Labour Party membership think he is a great bloke
Have a good day
Watson is just a Red Tory and is in the wrong party. He’s quite welcome to join the LibDems and be a Tory Lite party, like Labour was (and look how well that party did in elections since 2010).
WhT we need is a genuine alternative to the Tories - there’s absolutely no point in aping most Tory policies and cutting back on a few of the more extreme ones. There is clearly a desire for a form of democratic socialism in the the UK, else the Labour Party wouldn’t have gained almost half a million members in the last three years. The Tories are worried, which is why they have their mates in the media whipping up the anti-semitism business.
Watson is just feeding off that source in his attempt to get Corbyn out and to take over and try and turn back towards a more Blairite agenda. He can f**k off.
Agreed other than it’s not the tories whipping all this up - so many of the powerful will see their conditions change if a left wing government comes in to the UK, they’re all pitching in.
It’s remarkable Corbyn has been able to ride out this relentless onslaught over the past 4 years.
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 am
Funny how the anti-Zionists are mute when it comes to Iran, Syria, Zimbabwe and all the other countries with human rights issues.
I wonder what sets Israel apart from those countries?
Couldn't give a rats arse about those countries, It's what's happening to a political party being led by a racist in this country. Corblimy is so toxic he is destroying the labour party and the left are so blind as to what's going on and intolerant of anybody who disagrees with they're line of thinking
I am one of those toxic lefties and have been for 50 years and proud of it.
Strange how the Membership is still growing
I might not agree with your views but you have every right to air them
We the Labour Party membership think he is a great bloke
Have a good day
Thank you Blue Cap for your civil reply. It may surprise you to know I was a committed labour voter and supporter during and after "The Winter of Discontent" however labours idea of flooding the country with immigrants in the vain hope they would support labour shows how far they would go in destroying the culture of the country in order to achieve more voters
My political view now is so far to the right of Gengis Khan almost coming out on the other horizon lol
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 am
Funny how the anti-Zionists are mute when it comes to Iran, Syria, Zimbabwe and all the other countries with human rights issues.
I wonder what sets Israel apart from those countries?
That's just silly wee boys talk. Of course anti-zionists are opposed to tyranny and injustice all over the world.
Many anti-zionists as you call them aren't actually within that definition. Many of them accept the existence of Israel but are opposed to its illegal expansion and violence.
Many accept that there has to be a two state solution in Palestine/Israel and I believe JC is in favour of that.
However, the solution requires respect for Palestinian human and land rights but Israel are riding roughshod over them, including disenfranchising Palestinians within the so called democratic state of Israel.
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 am
Funny how the anti-Zionists are mute when it comes to Iran, Syria, Zimbabwe and all the other countries with human rights issues.
I wonder what sets Israel apart from those countries?
Couldn't give a rats arse about those countries, It's what's happening to a political party being led by a racist in this country. Corblimy is so toxic he is destroying the labour party and the left are so blind as to what's going on and intolerant of anybody who disagrees with they're line of thinking
Of course you can’t - you have no empathy for others. That makes you a perfect fit with Boris, Phillip Green, Farage and the other real purveyors of toxicity.
I don’t think you would even sense what toxic is if you visited Chernobyl - unlikely to happen mind you as that is in a foreign country.
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 am
Funny how the anti-Zionists are mute when it comes to Iran, Syria, Zimbabwe and all the other countries with human rights issues.
I wonder what sets Israel apart from those countries?
That's just silly wee boys talk. Of course anti-zionists are opposed to tyranny and injustice all over the world.
Many anti-zionists as you call them aren't actually within that definition. Many of them accept the existence of Israel but are opposed to its illegal expansion and violence.
Many accept that there has to be a two state solution in Palestine/Israel and I believe JC is in favour of that.
However, the solution requires respect for Palestinian human and land rights but Israel are riding roughshod over them, including disenfranchising Palestinians within the so called democratic state of Israel.
‘Many anti-zionists accept the existence of Israel.’
Really? ‘Many’ would represent more than 50%. Where is your evidence for this, or have you just used the word to prop up your tenuous point?
As well, it is funny how you purport to know what they think. How is that possible? In legal terms, that is an impossibility.
What JC is in favour of has no relevance to my point either. For a self-professed non-Labour voter, you seem to be rather obsessed with the chap.
Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 am
Funny how the anti-Zionists are mute when it comes to Iran, Syria, Zimbabwe and all the other countries with human rights issues.
I wonder what sets Israel apart from those countries?
That's just silly wee boys talk. Of course anti-zionists are opposed to tyranny and injustice all over the world.
Many anti-zionists as you call them aren't actually within that definition. Many of them accept the existence of Israel but are opposed to its illegal expansion and violence.
Many accept that there has to be a two state solution in Palestine/Israel and I believe JC is in favour of that.
However, the solution requires respect for Palestinian human and land rights but Israel are riding roughshod over them, including disenfranchising Palestinians within the so called democratic state of Israel.
‘Many anti-zionists accept the existence of Israel.’
Really? ‘Many’ would represent more than 50%. Where is your evidence for this, or have you just used the word to prop up your tenuous point?
As well, it is funny how you purport to know what they think. How is that possible? In legal terms, that is an impossibility.
What JC is in favour of has no relevance to my point either. For a self-professed non-Labour voter, you seem to be rather obsessed with the chap.
Another silly wee boys answer. I sense I'm wasting my time trying to educate you and undermine your false assumptions. I therefore give up.
In what way does commenting on Labour politics represent an obsession? If you want to play the man not the ball then that's fine. All it does is highlight your political ignorance.
That's just silly wee boys talk. Of course anti-zionists are opposed to tyranny and injustice all over the world.
Many anti-zionists as you call them aren't actually within that definition. Many of them accept the existence of Israel but are opposed to its illegal expansion and violence.
Many accept that there has to be a two state solution in Palestine/Israel and I believe JC is in favour of that.
However, the solution requires respect for Palestinian human and land rights but Israel are riding roughshod over them, including disenfranchising Palestinians within the so called democratic state of Israel.
‘Many anti-zionists accept the existence of Israel.’
Really? ‘Many’ would represent more than 50%. Where is your evidence for this, or have you just used the word to prop up your tenuous point?
As well, it is funny how you purport to know what they think. How is that possible? In legal terms, that is an impossibility.
What JC is in favour of has no relevance to my point either. For a self-professed non-Labour voter, you seem to be rather obsessed with the chap.
Another silly wee boys answer. I sense I'm wasting my time trying to educate you and undermine your false assumptions. I therefore give up.
In what way does commenting on Labour politics represent an obsession? If you want to play the man not the ball then that's fine. All it does is highlight your political ignorance.
Are you drunk? My point referred to you bringing JC into the argument when he had no relevance to it.
You are either more thick than usual today, or simply throwing some disjointed arguments about hoping something holds together.
