Russia / Ukraine Watch

[Dunners]

Won't he get removed by his own people at some point if it all drags on and sanctions hurt the rich ones enough

He's spent the last 15 years preparing for this. He's well insulated and unlikely to be got at. Not even his senior ministers are allowed close to him anymore.

The other day the Kremlin released a video of him supposedly sat at a table with a group of trainee flight attendants, patiently explaining to their feeble female minds what his Special Military Operation in Ukraine was all about. Upon closer scrutiny the video has been revealed to be a fake, with the flight attendants actually projected onto a blue screen behind and around him.

We need to plan for him being in power for the remainder of his natural life. He's almost 70, but if he's being looked after, that could be for a long time yet.

The Green screen theory has pretty much been debunked now Dunners. If you go onto youtube and look at the clip online it appears at one stage that Putins hand goes through a solid micophone stand placed in front of him, but the same clip in HD shows his hand passes behind the stand - the video appears to be genuine.

Fair enough. And some of those flight attendants were fit, so that makes sense.

I've almost given up trying to work out what is real or not, and most reliable OSINT channels are now solely focusing on official updates with verifiable evidence.

[Max B Gold]

He's spent the last 15 years preparing for this. He's well insulated and unlikely to be got at. Not even his senior ministers are allowed close to him anymore.

The other day the Kremlin released a video of him supposedly sat at a table with a group of trainee flight attendants, patiently explaining to their feeble female minds what his Special Military Operation in Ukraine was all about. Upon closer scrutiny the video has been revealed to be a fake, with the flight attendants actually projected onto a blue screen behind and around him.

We need to plan for him being in power for the remainder of his natural life. He's almost 70, but if he's being looked after, that could be for a long time yet.

The Green screen theory has pretty much been debunked now Dunners. If you go onto youtube and look at the clip online it appears at one stage that Putins hand goes through a solid micophone stand placed in front of him, but the same clip in HD shows his hand passes behind the stand - the video appears to be genuine.

Fair enough. And some of those flight attendants were fit, so that makes sense.

I've almost given up trying to work out what is real or not, and most reliable OSINT channels are now solely focusing on official updates with verifiable evidence.

A CIA plant on the MB is unveiled and yes we've noticed you have given up working out what is real.

[Real Al]

So, a couple of unlikely stories are coming out about a grandma knocking a £2m drone out of the sky with a jar of tomatoes, and a janitor trapping a team of snipers in a lift by turning the power off.

I will not be seeking a fact check on these, as I just want them to be true

[Max B Gold]

Forget the nukes. The trump card has now been played it can now only be a matter of time before the Russian people rebel and remove the dictator

[Dunners]

Crikey. It will be interesting to see how many allies fall in line with this.

[Celtient]

We might get things wrong but the fact Zelensky is talking to Boris daily and addressing the UK parliament soon is promising

Makes you proud to British.......

Even prouder when he gets a standing ovation from Russian financed Tory MP's.

Don't think anybody's mentioned those Home Office guys at Calais handing out KitKats to Ukrainian refugees before sending them off on a wild goose chase to Brussels or Paris to try to get a visa to enter UK. Credit where credit's due. Although an upgrade to a Caramel Wafer would have had their spirits soaring even higher.

[Dunners]

Er...

[Long slender neck]

Have they cut the power to Chernobyl without really thinking it through?

[Max B Gold]

Have they cut the power to Chernobyl without really thinking it through?

A new type of nuclear threat?

Time for peace talks and handing over Crimea, Donbas and Luhansk and the installation of a Russian puppet govt. The game is up.

Putin is just too slippery for the slippery but dumbass West.

[Dunners]

F*ck knows what is happening. IAEA is saying that there's no need to panic.

Not great, not terrible.

[tuffers#1]

How soon do we think NATO & Russia Clash ?

Im thinking May .

[RedDwarf 1881]

Who knows but I think sooner or later it will happen. Its inevitable.

[tuffers#1]

If Putin is taken out it stops ?

[RedDwarf 1881]

Hopefully that happens

[RedDwarf 1881]

Russia now deliberately bombing a childrens hospital . That b***ard Putin is now a war criminal and needs to stand in an international court.

[tuffers#1]

what another one ?

[Dunners]

How soon do we think NATO & Russia Clash ?

Im thinking May .

It won't happen unless Russia deliberately attacks a NATO member territory or assets. The message is clear; anything goes inside Ukraine, but not an inch further. This will be devastating for the Ukrainians, but this is a very real red line.

However, if you want a prediction, here's mine: in the unlikely event that Russia attacks a NATO border, I predict it will be Romania. And that's because it would be part of an effort to close the Bessarabian gap.

As for when that could happen, it won't be until after they have taken control of Odessa and joined up with forces in Transnistria. At the present rate of progress I cannot see that happening by May. Maybe August.

But, right now, I'd still be willing to put money on the above not happening at all.

[RedDwarf 1881]

How soon do we think NATO & Russia Clash ?

Im thinking May .

It won't happen unless Russia deliberately attacks a NATO member territory or assets. The message is clear; anything goes inside Ukraine, but not an inch further. This will be devastating for the Ukrainians, but this is a very real red line.

However, if you want a prediction, here's mine: in the unlikely event that Russia attacks a NATO border, I predict it will be Romania. And that's because it would be part of an effort to close the Bessarabian gap.

As for when that could happen, it won't be until after they have taken control of Odessa and joined up with forces in Transnistria. At the present rate of progress I cannot see that happening by May. Maybe August.

But, right now, I'd still be willing to put money on the above not happening at all.

If they attack Romania then its WW3.

[tuffers#1]

How soon do we think NATO & Russia Clash ?

Im thinking May .

It won't happen unless Russia deliberately attacks a NATO member territory or assets. The message is clear; anything goes inside Ukraine, but not an inch further. This will be devastating for the Ukrainians, but this is a very real red line.

However, if you want a prediction, here's mine: in the unlikely event that Russia attacks a NATO border, I predict it will be Romania. And that's because it would be part of an effort to close the Bessarabian gap.

As for when that could happen, it won't be until after they have taken control of Odessa and joined up with forces in Transnistria. At the present rate of progress I cannot see that happening by May. Maybe August.

But, right now, I'd still be willing to put money on the above not happening at all.

Now the Americans have said the Polish Migs wont be going to Ukraine
Im not sure.it eill happen any earlier than May ,

Im with you on Romania , but Putin could just lose his rag
If the Ukraine gets more help from the west .

[Dunners]

Roman Abramovich has now also been sanctioned by the UK Government and his assets - including Chelsea Football Club - have been frozen

Chelsea have been given a special licence to continue with "football related activities" (i.e. playing tonight's match against Norwich) but the club can no longer be sold. I'm not yet sure if this affects the club's ability to trade in other ways, such as player transfers etc.

[Dunners]

Okay - Licence for continued operation of Chelsea is very narrow

Only existing season ticket holders can attend fixtures. Club can pay players and staff, pay for travel to and from games, pay director fees & cover costs of security, catering and stewarding - but that's it.

[Dunners]

www.gov.uk/government/news/abramovich-a ... nction-hit

In addition to Roman Abramovich, Oleg Deripaska, Igor Sechin, Andrey Kostin, Alexei Miller, Nikolai Tokarev, and Dmitri Lebedev have also been sanctioned and their assets have been frozen. Estimated $19.7 billion hit.

[Long slender neck]

Lord Lebedev been sanctioned?

[Dunners]

Lord Lebedev been sanctioned?

From the Gov link I posted: "Dmitri Lebedev is Chairman of the Board of Directors of Bank Rossiya"

[Max Fowler]

Lord Lebedev been sanctioned?

Of course he hasn't.