Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:44 pmThen look at the economic numbers and compare those with others. They stand up pretty well, very well in fact. As do future projections. Went under the radar but last quarterly economic growth exceeded estimates and better than our European neighbours.
But good news is no news these day. But it’s out there amongst the bad stuff.
Just had a quick look at employment data, will study a bit closer, but it seems that only the Netherlands has better figures than the U.K. but a quick look so I stand to be corrected. Data seem a bit retrospective so the shift you mention could well be right. But I doubt there is much in it. I suppose it could be said we are doing as well/badly as others.
Looks like the U.K. has an employment rate of 75.5%. The EU average Has not exceeded this based on data going back to 2009. And as of 1st quarter 2021 numbers were in decline.
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That’s a blight to society of that I agree. It started under Blair and has got worse as time has progressed. Why successive governments allow this to happen is in my eyes criminal.StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:57 pm We have more foodbanks than branches of McDonalds. We're clearly doing brilliantly, economically speaking. (i.e. being economical with the truth)
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The EU is a busted flush and we are better off out of it which once we get out of this endemic the better it will be for all in society, well let’s hope that’s one truth that Boris speaks of come true.Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:58 pmDohnut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:44 pmThen look at the economic numbers and compare those with others. They stand up pretty well, very well in fact. As do future projections. Went under the radar but last quarterly economic growth exceeded estimates and better than our European neighbours.
But good news is no news these day. But it’s out there amongst the bad stuff.
Just had a quick look at employment data, will study a bit closer, but it seems that only the Netherlands has better figures than the U.K. but a quick look so I stand to be corrected. Data seem a bit retrospective so the shift you mention could well be right. But I doubt there is much in it. I suppose it could be said we are doing as well/badly as others.
Looks like the U.K. has an employment rate of 75.5%. The EU average Has not exceeded this based on data going back to 2009. And as of 1st quarter 2021 numbers were in decline.
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But he's a big fat liar. Why should we believe anything he says or you for that matter.Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:08 amThe EU is a busted flush and we are better off out of it which once we get out of this endemic the better it will be for all in society, well let’s hope that’s one truth that Boris speaks of come true.Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:58 pmDohnut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:44 pm
Then look at the economic numbers and compare those with others. They stand up pretty well, very well in fact. As do future projections. Went under the radar but last quarterly economic growth exceeded estimates and better than our European neighbours.
But good news is no news these day. But it’s out there amongst the bad stuff.
Just had a quick look at employment data, will study a bit closer, but it seems that only the Netherlands has better figures than the U.K. but a quick look so I stand to be corrected. Data seem a bit retrospective so the shift you mention could well be right. But I doubt there is much in it. I suppose it could be said we are doing as well/badly as others.
Looks like the U.K. has an employment rate of 75.5%. The EU average Has not exceeded this based on data going back to 2009. And as of 1st quarter 2021 numbers were in decline.
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Cos I’m right on Europe and I hope that Boris is telling the truth so that levelling up means exactly that. He will be held to account on it.
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How long have the Tories been in power?Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:06 amThat’s a blight to society of that I agree. It started under Sir Tony Blair and has got worse as time has progressed. Why successive governments allow this to happen is in my eyes criminal.StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:57 pm We have more foodbanks than branches of McDonalds. We're clearly doing brilliantly, economically speaking. (i.e. being economical with the truth)
Have foodbanks become much more common place during their tenure?
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Please show the facts that prove you're "right on Europe" - TIA
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Prove you are right on Brexit.
List the many benefits.
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I found a benefit. With so many lorries parked up they won't be spewing their filthy diesel fumes into the environment.
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As much as I hate the Tories and Brexit this particular queue is due to DFDS running one less ferry.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:41 am I found a benefit. With so many lorries parked up they won't be spewing their filthy diesel fumes into the environment.
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Can you prove that?one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:02 pmAs much as I hate the Tories and Brexit this particular queue is due to DFDS running one less ferry.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:41 am I found a benefit. With so many lorries parked up they won't be spewing their filthy diesel fumes into the environment.
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Just have to take my word about the Tories etc.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:08 pmCan you prove that?one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:02 pmAs much as I hate the Tories and Brexit this particular queue is due to DFDS running one less ferry.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:41 am I found a benefit. With so many lorries parked up they won't be spewing their filthy diesel fumes into the environment.
Here is the BBC report on the traffic jam https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-60096001
Is that ok m'lud?
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Oh come on chief. The BBC are just an extension of the Tories press office these days.one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:54 pmJust have to take my word about the Tories etc.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:08 pmCan you prove that?one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:02 pm
As much as I hate the Tories and Brexit this particular queue is due to DFDS running one less ferry.
Here is the BBC report on the traffic jam https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-60096001
Is that ok m'lud?
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Just happens to be true that DFDS are carrying out work on one of their ferries.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:50 pmOh come on chief. The BBC are just an extension of the Tories press office these days.one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:54 pmJust have to take my word about the Tories etc.
Here is the BBC report on the traffic jam https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-60096001
Is that ok m'lud?
Nothing to do with reporting bias, just the way it is
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How many lorries do they get on one of their ferries ?
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Its almost as if our neoliberal system just doesn’t work for everyone.Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:06 amThat’s a blight to society of that I agree. It started under Sir Tony Blair and has got worse as time has progressed. Why successive governments allow this to happen is in my eyes criminal.StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:57 pm We have more foodbanks than branches of McDonalds. We're clearly doing brilliantly, economically speaking. (i.e. being economical with the truth)
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No system works for everyone. But by every metric, the last 70 years have been the best time to exist for anyone relative to their ancestors at any point in history.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:38 pmIts almost as if our neoliberal system just doesn’t work for everyone.Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:06 amThat’s a blight to society of that I agree. It started under Sir Tony Sir Tony Blair and has got worse as time has progressed. Why successive governments allow this to happen is in my eyes criminal.StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:57 pm We have more foodbanks than branches of McDonalds. We're clearly doing brilliantly, economically speaking. (i.e. being economical with the truth)
But that era does appear to be over. I just don't think you're going to like what comes after. You may yet look back at the neoliberal era as the good old days.
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Or maybe begin to think that maybe Corbyn's vision had actually shown us the best possible way forward?Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:24 pmNo system works for everyone. But by every metric, the last 70 years have been the best time to exist for anyone relative to their ancestors at any point in history.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:38 pmIts almost as if our neoliberal system just doesn’t work for everyone.
But that era does appear to be over. I just don't think you're going to like what comes after. You may yet look back at the neoliberal era as the good old days.
"For the many - not the few!"
When mentioning the last 70 years, this is also about being part of Europe - and all the connections, joint endeavours and co-operation this had brought!
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I think youll find food parcel sharing has been going long before Blair .Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:06 amThat’s a blight to society of that I agree. It started under Sir Tony Blair and has got worse as time has progressed. Why successive governments allow this to happen is in my eyes criminal.StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:57 pm We have more foodbanks than branches of McDonalds. We're clearly doing brilliantly, economically speaking. (i.e. being economical with the truth)
Here is photo proof from Th*tchers Britain as an example .
https://www.alamy.com/miners-strike-198 ... 23816.html
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Ain’t that the truth, shame some others on here can’t see what’s happening right in front of their eyes.Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:24 pmNo system works for everyone. But by every metric, the last 70 years have been the best time to exist for anyone relative to their ancestors at any point in history.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:38 pmIts almost as if our neoliberal system just doesn’t work for everyone.
But that era does appear to be over. I just don't think you're going to like what comes after. You may yet look back at the neoliberal era as the good old days.
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That was one specific event Tuffers not everyday like it is now.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:21 amI think youll find food parcel sharing has been going long before Sir Tony Blair .Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:06 amThat’s a blight to society of that I agree. It started under Sir Tony Sir Tony Blair and has got worse as time has progressed. Why successive governments allow this to happen is in my eyes criminal.StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:57 pm We have more foodbanks than branches of McDonalds. We're clearly doing brilliantly, economically speaking. (i.e. being economical with the truth)
Here is photo proof from Th*tchers Britain as an example .
https://www.alamy.com/miners-strike-198 ... 23816.html
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A single event that lasted a Year .Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:40 pmThat was one specific event Tuffers not everyday like it is now.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:21 amI think youll find food parcel sharing has been going long before Sir Tony Sir Tony Blair .
Here is photo proof from Th*tchers Britain as an example .
https://www.alamy.com/miners-strike-198 ... 23816.html
Didnt Mr Corbyn want to cl9se Food banks & make sure everyone had enough money to live on ?
Trouble is the Public decided to vote against it .