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Another pointless argument over formation. Football has become a lot more fluid than in the past so formations change when with the ball and when without
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Adz wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:03 pm Another pointless argument over formation. Football has become a lot more fluid than in the past so formations change when with the ball and when without
Sure but we lined up as a 4-4-2, Ruel playing alongside Smith, Pratley and Hector in the middle, Clay on the right and Archibald on the left.
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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:46 pm
Adz wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:03 pm Another pointless argument over formation. Football has become a lot more fluid than in the past so formations change when with the ball and when without
Sure but we lined up as a 4-4-2, Ruel playing alongside Smith, Pratley and Hector in the middle, Clay on the right and Archibald on the left.
In Ruels after match interview ( see below ) the interviewer said to Ruel that the Os were playing a new system 4-4-2 to which Ruel agreed .

See/listen to this video from 48 seconds onward where this is mentioned. Reaction: Sotiriou on his goal and three points v Bradford.

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Clay played on the right and didn't come back quite as much, but I don't remember him dynamically running down the wing and making crosses similar to Archibald, so what formation we played can be debated, we definitely had two forwards down the middle. Many choose to ridicule Clay, I'm just pleased we have an experienced player who however limited, can fill in and play wherever he's asked.
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Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:16 pm Clay played on the right and didn't come back quite as much, but I don't remember him dynamically running down the wing and making crosses similar to Archibald, so what formation we played can be debated, we definitely had two forwards down the middle. Many choose to ridicule Clay, I'm just pleased we have an experienced player who however limited, can fill in and play wherever he' asked.
Already said it was lopsided, there’s no comparison between Archibald on the left and Clay on the right. But yeah, he’s done a decent job when called upon every time this season.
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Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:16 pm Clay played on the right and didn't come back quite as much, but I don't remember him dynamically running down the wing and making crosses similar to Archibald, so what formation we played can be debated, we definitely had two forwards down the middle. Many choose to ridicule Clay, I'm just pleased we have an experienced player who however limited, can fill in and play wherever he' asked.
Him and Hector played either side of Pratley who sat deeper and they got out to the wide areas to close down. Ruel and Archibald were wide either side of Smith. Ruel got closer to Smith when the long ball went into him, that’s it.
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:30 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:16 pm Clay played on the right and didn't come back quite as much, but I don't remember him dynamically running down the wing and making crosses similar to Archibald, so what formation we played can be debated, we definitely had two forwards down the middle. Many choose to ridicule Clay, I'm just pleased we have an experienced player who however limited, can fill in and play wherever he' asked.
Him and Hector played either side of Pratley who sat deeper and they got out to the wide areas to close down. Ruel and Archibald were wide either side of Smith. Ruel got closer to Smith when the long ball went into him, that’s it.
That literally didn’t happen.

It’s staggering that someone can watch so much football for so many years and not be able to see something as basic as the formation we’re operating.

It was a 4-4-2.
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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:37 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:30 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:16 pm Clay played on the right and didn't come back quite as much, but I don't remember him dynamically running down the wing and making crosses similar to Archibald, so what formation we played can be debated, we definitely had two forwards down the middle. Many choose to ridicule Clay, I'm just pleased we have an experienced player who however limited, can fill in and play wherever he' asked.
Him and Hector played either side of Pratley who sat deeper and they got out to the wide areas to close down. Ruel and Archibald were wide either side of Smith. Ruel got closer to Smith when the long ball went into him, that’s it.
That literally didn’t happen.

It’s staggering that someone can watch so much football for so many years and not be able to see something as basic as the formation we’re operating.

It was a 4-4-2.
So repeat ''In Ruels after match interview ( see below ) the interviewer said to Ruel that the Os were playing a new system 4-4-2 to which Ruel agreed''
So wonder why they would be saying that if it was not true ? Of course with any football formations, they would not be playing in rigid positions in lines but a loosely based system that allows for the fluid movement of players to areas of the pitch where there is space to make effective use of the ball as have all football teams throughout the ages. More imagination of football tactics required.
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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:37 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:30 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:16 pm Clay played on the right and didn't come back quite as much, but I don't remember him dynamically running down the wing and making crosses similar to Archibald, so what formation we played can be debated, we definitely had two forwards down the middle. Many choose to ridicule Clay, I'm just pleased we have an experienced player who however limited, can fill in and play wherever he' asked.
Him and Hector played either side of Pratley who sat deeper and they got out to the wide areas to close down. Ruel and Archibald were wide either side of Smith. Ruel got closer to Smith when the long ball went into him, that’s it.
That literally didn’t happen.

It’s staggering that someone can watch so much football for so many years and not be able to see something as basic as the formation we’re operating.

It was a 4-4-2.
Yes it did. Maybe watch the whole game instead of the transitions.
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Have you foe’d Sid?

(Understandable but worth reading his posts above in this instance).
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4-3-3

Vigs

James
Ogie / Happe
Beckles
Wood

Pratley
Kyp
Rielley

Arch
Smith
Drinian

Subs:

Smyth
Clay
Kemp
Happe / Ogie
Sarg
Sotoriou
Mitchell

Reserves:

Thompson
Sweeney
Young
Omotoye
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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:46 pm
Adz wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:03 pm Another pointless argument over formation. Football has become a lot more fluid than in the past so formations change when with the ball and when without
Sure but we lined up as a 4-4-2, Ruel playing alongside Smith, Pratley and Hector in the middle, Clay on the right and Archibald on the left.
Similar to our promotion season 4 4 2 when we had Joe Keith and Shane tudor
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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:19 am Have you foe’d Sid?

(Understandable but worth reading his posts above in this instance).
You can all foe me if you like !
Am I bothered...Nah !
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Adz wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:17 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:46 pm
Adz wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:03 pm Another pointless argument over formation. Football has become a lot more fluid than in the past so formations change when with the ball and when without
Sure but we lined up as a 4-4-2, Ruel playing alongside Smith, Pratley and Hector in the middle, Clay on the right and Archibald on the left.
Similar to our promotion season 4 4 2 when we had Joe Keith and Shane tudor
Kind of, but without Tom James flying past Clay on the overlap.
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Jackett just confirmed it was two up front in his Newport preview video.
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Of course he has. Because we were obviously playing 4-4-2 against Bradford, and the second half v Harrogate.
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Except with Archibald AML/FLC
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I don’t know what those letters mean.
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Silly old Dick.
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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:46 pm I don’t know what those letters mean.
Perhaps these 4-4-2 disbelievers should take the matter up with King Kenny himself.
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Kenny is almost as senile as Dulcet.
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:45 pm Kenny is almost as senile as Dulcet.
King Kenny to lead us to the promised land !
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