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True that Redo.
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RedO wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:16 pm But the young aren’t dying from it?
But are they passing it on to older loved ones when they bring them there lockdown shopping ?
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tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:05 am
RedO wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:16 pm But the young aren’t dying from it?
But are they passing it on to older loved ones when they bring them there lockdown shopping ?
Good point Tiff.
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England’s contact tracers 'making handful of calls' a month

It was hailed as a “world-beating” service by prime minister Boris Johnson at its launch, but three months on and contract tracers hired to work on England’s test-and-trace system say they are making only a handful of calls every month and are occupying their time with barbecues and quizzes.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ls-a-month

Wonder what Messrs. Johnson :clown and Hancock :clown have to say about it?

I also wonder where the Millions have gone that have been spunked up the wall.......including to a close associate of Cummings :evil: and Gove :clown?

Meanwhile, it appears that Local Authorities are having more success than this bent, incompetent Tory Government. Whoever would have guessed!


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And what happened to the tracing app?
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tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:05 am
RedO wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:16 pm But the young aren’t dying from it?
But are they passing it on to older loved ones when they bring them there lockdown shopping ?
Not if they wear gloves and wash the shopping down before storing it away.
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Old people live on a diet of biscuits and cake anyway. Easy to stock up on.
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RedO wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:30 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:05 am
RedO wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:16 pm But the young aren’t dying from it?
But are they passing it on to older loved ones when they bring them there lockdown shopping ?
Not if they wear gloves and wash the shopping down before storing it away.
Blimey your making them do an awful lot of work to keep them free of virus.

Easier to lockdown the irresponsible young virus
spreaders & leave the older more responsible to social distance properly.

After all the young uns are going to need all there energy
Working To pay back the £190 billion of debt .
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£190 billion of debt that was created out of thin air. It didn’t exist, it was created, money is an illusion. Look up reserve fractional banking so as to understand.
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So Leyton Orient didnt take a few hundred quid out of peoples bank accounts
for season cards .
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I know we have various vaccines in development at the moment but what happens if none of them work. ? We can't have these lockdown measures forever otherwise we'll go bankrupt . Maybe the time is fast approaching where we all go back to normal . I think we're going to have to learn to live with this virus like we do the flu.
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:58 am I know we have various vaccines in development at the moment but what happens if none of them work. ? We can't have these lockdown measures forever otherwise we'll go bankrupt . Maybe the time is fast approaching where we all go back to normal . I think we're going to have to learn to live with this virus like we do the flu.
I would imagine that eventually we would develop herd immunity and build up some resistance. It would probably take a few years though.
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"WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” - Donald J Trump
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" Had we gone with Herd , MILLIONS would have died " :- Donald J Trump

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@BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.


Good Guardian reporting theguardian.com/world/live/202…
on increasingly bizarre PHE daily death count, which includes any of the 250,000+ people who have tested positive and then died of any cause. DHSC allegedly suspended them pending an investigation on how they reach their number, still waiting on their findings.

So according to PHE we are on course for over a quarter of a million deaths i.e. Anyone who has ever contracted Covid. Including the infamous case of the bloke killed by a car while riding his motorbike and the cause of death on his death certificate was put down as Covid because he had previously had it.
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Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm @BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.
Evidence?
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Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm @BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.


Good Guardian reporting theguardian.com/world/live/202…
on increasingly bizarre PHE daily death count, which includes any of the 250,000+ people who have tested positive and then died of any cause. DHSC allegedly suspended them pending an investigation on how they reach their number, still waiting on their findings.

So according to PHE we are on course for over a quarter of a million deaths i.e. Anyone who has ever contracted Covid. Including the infamous case of the bloke killed by a car while riding his motorbike and the cause of death on his death certificate was put down as Covid because he had previously had it.
I’m pleased we have a person awake to the fraud that is being perpetrated by the people who govern us.
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Disoriented wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:03 pm
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm @BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.
Evidence?
viewtopic.php?p=123908#p123908

You thought it was "spin" last time. Is that still your view?
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faldO wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:29 pm
Disoriented wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:03 pm
Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm @BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.
Evidence?
viewtopic.php?p=123908#p123908

You thought it was "spin" last time. Is that still your view?
Blind Freddie knows it fella.
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Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:49 pm
Put your seatbelts on and hang on tight.
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The French government says it has recorded 2,288 new confirmed COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours which is up 684 cases from yesterday.

I'm quite sure that's not what the French government actually said - given that the past 24 hours would actually have been yesterday?

The absolute dire state of journalism these days! :roll:
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NuneatonO's wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:14 am The French government says it has recorded 2,288 new confirmed COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours which is up 684 cases from yesterday.

I'm quite sure that's not what the French government actually said - given that the past 24 hours would actually have been yesterday?

The absolute dire state of journalism these days! :roll:
Dream Team would never tolerate that standard.
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Top of the JES wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:29 pm @BBCNews 10pm 5th Aug bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod… said “On average, in the last week, 58 people have died everyday from coronavirus”. This is grossly misleading - PHE is reporting deaths of people who once tested positive. True number dying with Covid is perhaps 15-25 a day.


Good Guardian reporting theguardian.com/world/live/202…
on increasingly bizarre PHE daily death count, which includes any of the 250,000+ people who have tested positive and then died of any cause. DHSC allegedly suspended them pending an investigation on how they reach their number, still waiting on their findings.

So according to PHE we are on course for over a quarter of a million deaths i.e. Anyone who has ever contracted Covid. Including the infamous case of the bloke killed by a car while riding his motorbike and the cause of death on his death certificate was put down as Covid because he had previously had it.
Sadly 2 of my friends died they both only had about a week to live as at end of life, cancer and an aggressive dementia. They both got Covid and this was added to the figures.

I am aware that the counting in care homes was that if one patient in the home had Covid then all deaths were then classed as Covid. Considering the average life expectancy in care homes is 11 months, you expect to lose 10% per month.

If you look at the numbers only 4.5% did not have an underlying issue, but 40% have been obese.

Our figures have sadly because of our
systems been heavily overstated.
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Just seen stats for my borough. About ten cases a week over the past couple of months and 1 death a week, sometimes none.
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