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Current Orient Squad
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:06 pm
by Roger
Where do we need bolstering especially assuming some of the kids will go out on loan.
Seargeant (out of contract 30 June)
Byrne
Vigs
LB Sweeny
LB Wood
CB Thompson
CB Happe
CB Ogie
CB Beckles
RB James
Sodje
CM Clay
CM Brown
CM Coleman
CM Pratley
CM Obiero
CM Young
Harvest
AM Khan
AM Nkrumah
AM Smyth
AM Archibald
AM Tanga
ST Fish
ST Sortirou
ST Smith
ST Drinan
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:19 pm
by Long slender neck
Left back
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:25 pm
by faith1234
We have a left back wood
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:21 pm
by gshaw
CM x2
ST
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:04 pm
by tuffers#1
Roger wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:06 pm
Where do we need bolstering especially assuming some of the kids will go out on loan.
Seargeant (out of contract 30 June)
Byrne
Vigs
LB Sweeny
LB Wood
CB Thompson
CB Happe
CB Ogie
CB Beckles
RB James
Sodje
CM Clay
CM Brown
CM Coleman
CM Pratley
CM Obiero
CM Young
Harvest
AM Khan
AM Nkrumah
AM Smyth
AM Archibald
AM Tanga
ST Fish
ST Sortirou
ST Smith
ST Drinan
Id say defensive midfielder as you've got lots of AM & CM but ont one DM !
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:13 pm
by Long slender neck
Box to box midfielder
Centre back
Wing back who can play both sides
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:38 pm
by Max Fowler
First 11 of
Vigs
James Beckles Ogie Wood
Brown
Pratley Clay/Khan
Smyth Drinnan Archibald
or
Vigs
James Beckles Ogie Wood
Brown
Pratley Smyth
Ruel Drinnan Archibald
Isn’t bad but is weak in midfield and we are still short on depth,
We need a first choice, experienced holding CM to cover the defence and collect the ball from them, we also need a first choice creative ACM to ensure Smyth can play further forward.
Other than that, we just need more cover.
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:58 pm
by tuffers#1
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:38 pm
First 11 of
Vigs
James Beckles Ogie Wood
Brown
Pratley Clay/Khan
Smyth Drinnan Archibald
or
Vigs
James Beckles Ogie Wood
Brown
Pratley Smyth
Ruel Drinnan Archibald
Isn’t bad but is weak in midfield and we are still short on depth,
We need a first choice, experienced holding CM to cover the defence and collect the ball from them, we also need a first choice creative ACM to ensure Smyth can play further forward.
Other than that, we just need more cover.
Wellens picks the team lets leave the strongest line up opinion till we are 10 points adrift & in the bottom 2 , theres a good lad .
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:08 am
by LittleMate
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:13 pm
Box to box midfielder
Centre back
Wing back who can play both sides
110% the midfielder and I would not argue against the other two
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:09 am
by Stan1972
I would like to see 5, but will prob only be 3, but that’s just my wish list.
1 x LB
2 x CM
1 x RW
1 x No9 goal scorer
Sweeney not good enough for L2
Kyp gone
Pratley cannot play week in week out
Clay coming back from bad injury and will also cover RB
Other CM are young and inexperienced, so we need 2 CM.
Wings we have Theo on left & Khan on Right, but we need a RW, to give Khan competition, but can also cover Theo on the left.
Up front A young Kevin Campbell on loan from Prem team would be nice, Scarlett from Spurs)
Over to you RW
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:19 am
by Story of O
Do we play wingers? Looked like 433 to me
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:32 am
by Max Fowler
LittleMate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:08 am
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:13 pm
Box to box midfielder
Centre back
Wing back who can play both sides
110% the midfielder and I would not argue against the other two
No one plays 4-4-2 anymore, where you need 2 CMs who can do a bit of everything. The box to box, tackling, passing, scoring midfielder is a thing of the past.
If we're going with 3 at the back again then yeah, you're right, we do need a 5th CB.
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:41 am
by Qin
There may be some disgruntled players, because the squad is large
As an example, there are four Centre Backs, and only 2 will play, meaning 2 wont play. ( RW has already says he prefers 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1)
The 2 CB's who dont play will get fed up after a while.
Same thing may happen in midfield, and if more players are added to the squad, the 'problem' gets worse too
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:15 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Stan1972 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:09 am
I would like to see 5, but will prob only be 3, but that’s just my wish list.
1 x LB
2 x CM
1 x RW
1 x No9 goal scorer
Sweeney not good enough for L2
Kyp gone
Pratley cannot play week in week out
Clay coming back from bad injury and will also cover RB
Other CM are young and inexperienced, so we need 2 CM.
Wings we have Theo on left & Khan on Right, but we need a RW, to give Khan competition, but can also cover Theo on the left.
Up front A young Kevin Campbell on loan from Prem team would be nice, Scarlett from Spurs)
Over to you RW
I agree with you . I think you're spot on .
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:20 am
by Max Fowler
Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:41 am
There may be some disgruntled players, because the squad is large
As an example, there are four Centre Backs, and only 2 will play, meaning 2 wont play. ( RW has already says he prefers 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1)
The 2 CB's who dont play will get fed up after a while.
Same thing may happen in midfield, and if more players are added to the squad, the 'problem' gets worse too
Thommo can and will cover at RB. Ogie can and will cover at LB. We will sometimes play 3 CBs. Players will get injured and pick up suspensions.
4 CBs is fine if we’re going to play 4 at the back but if 3 at the back is a possibility, we need another one.
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:20 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:41 am
There may be some disgruntled players, because the squad is large
As an example, there are four Centre Backs, and only 2 will play, meaning 2 wont play. ( RW has already says he prefers 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1)
The 2 CB's who dont play will get fed up after a while.
Same thing may happen in midfield, and if more players are added to the squad, the 'problem' gets worse too
Surely other clubs are in the same position . The modern game now requires you have a strong squad . During the season and for various reasons I'm sure the squad will rotate .
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:22 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:20 am
Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:41 am
There may be some disgruntled players, because the squad is large
As an example, there are four Centre Backs, and only 2 will play, meaning 2 wont play. ( RW has already says he prefers 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1)
The 2 CB's who dont play will get fed up after a while.
Same thing may happen in midfield, and if more players are added to the squad, the 'problem' gets worse too
Thommo can and will cover at RB. Ogie can and will cover at LB. We will sometimes play 3 CBs. Players will get injured and pick up suspensions.
4 CBs is fine if we’re going to play 4 at the back but if 3 at the back is a possibility, we need another one.
Curtis Davis ?
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:16 pm
by POSHO
Ogie suspended for 1st game
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:26 pm
by gshaw
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:20 am
Qin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:41 am
There may be some disgruntled players, because the squad is large
As an example, there are four Centre Backs, and only 2 will play, meaning 2 wont play. ( RW has already says he prefers 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1)
The 2 CB's who dont play will get fed up after a while.
Same thing may happen in midfield, and if more players are added to the squad, the 'problem' gets worse too
Surely other clubs are in the same position . The modern game now requires you have a strong squad . During the season and for various reasons I'm sure the squad will rotate .
Exactly, you want players who keep themselves ready to step in and make a place their own. Like Wellens said if another CB comes in for Ogie first game and plays well then Ogie will have to wait for his chance.
The loan window being removed a few seasons back means you have to start with a large squad in August else by the time you can top up with reinforcements in January you've already lost ground over the winter fixtures.
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:24 pm
by Still's Carenae
RW has said on different occasions:
We may bring a young CB in.
We need a number 8 and also suggested 2 new midfielders.
A young striker on loan.
3-4 players in.
But some may be moved on.
The new substitute rule may have changed his thoughts slightly.
I thought the fixtures were interesting from the point of view of how few Tuesday games we have, which is 4. Obviously cup games, but unless we have either good cup runs or many cancelled matches the first team players will be fit most weeks.
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:04 pm
by gshaw
Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:24 pm
RW has said on different occasions:
We may bring a young CB in.
We need a number 8 and also suggested 2 new midfielders.
A young striker on loan.
3-4 players in.
But some may be moved on.
The new substitute rule may have changed his thoughts slightly.
I thought the fixtures were interesting from the point of view of how few Tuesday games we have, which is 4. Obviously cup games, but unless we have either good cup runs or many cancelled matches the first team players will be fit most weeks.
Those 3-4 pretty much matches what many of us been thinking for a while. I just hope RW isn't "persuaded" to cut back on that and use what he has in the hope they'll come good.
Also hoping many of the academy players will be sent out on loan to NL to toughen up like Ogie did. The midfield players particularly looked really lightweight last season.
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:03 pm
by spen666
Still's Carenae wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:24 pm
....
I thought the fixtures were interesting from the point of view of how few Tuesday games we have, which is 4. Obviously cup games, but unless we have either good cup runs or many cancelled matches the first team players will be fit most weeks.
Do players only get injured in night matches then?
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:34 pm
by Still's Carenae
Spen. Tell me your thought processes about Tuesday night injuries and I will tell you why playing Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday, tuesday etc causes injuries.
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:52 pm
by tuffers#1
Stan1972 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:09 am
I would like to see 5, but will prob only be 3, but that’s just my wish list.
1 x LB
2 x CM
1 x RW
1 x No9 goal scorer
Sweeney not good enough for L2
Kyp gone
Pratley cannot play week in week out
Clay coming back from bad injury and will also cover RB
Other CM are young and inexperienced, so we need 2 CM.
Wings we have Theo on left & Khan on Right, but we need a RW, to give Khan competition, but can also cover Theo on the left.
Up front A young Kevin Campbell on loan from Prem team would be nice, Scarlett from Spurs)
Over to you RW
Did you not notice some of RW's experimentation towards the end of the season , rotation & inverting positions of wide players & Wing backs .
We will tear this league apart this season , just dont expect it to look like what youve seen before .
14-1 still looking good
Re: Current Orient Squad
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:09 am
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:52 pm
Stan1972 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:09 am
I would like to see 5, but will prob only be 3, but that’s just my wish list.
1 x LB
2 x CM
1 x RW
1 x No9 goal scorer
Sweeney not good enough for L2
Kyp gone
Pratley cannot play week in week out
Clay coming back from bad injury and will also cover RB
Other CM are young and inexperienced, so we need 2 CM.
Wings we have Theo on left & Khan on Right, but we need a RW, to give Khan competition, but can also cover Theo on the left.
Up front A young Kevin Campbell on loan from Prem team would be nice, Scarlett from Spurs)
Over to you RW
Did you not notice some of RW's experimentation towards the end of the season , rotation & inverting positions of wide players & Wing backs .
We will tear this league apart this season , just dont expect it to look like what youve seen before .
14-1 still looking good
Point wellens made Tuffty boy but depth of squad is what wins promotion.