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A car was rammed off the road in Hackney containing two men who were then squirted with acid. By standers we’re throwing buckets of water over them to help.

It seems we’re are have of the highest attacks record of acid in the world per capita.

No arrests have been made yet. WTF is going on?

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:00 am A car was rammed off the road in Hackney containing two men who were then squirted with acid. By standers we’re throwing buckets of water over them to help.

It seems we’re are have of the highest attacks record of acid in the world per capita.

No arrests have been made yet. WTF is going on?

Not disputing that acid attacks are shocking but where is that data coming from?

Acid survivors trust international

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:11 am Acid survivors trust international

Ah, you mean The Sun, "quoting" ASTI, not necessarily the same thing.

Horrifying really that we are up there with some of those countries.

https://www.asti.org.uk/

Sign of the society that we live in.

Because of police cuts?

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:47 am Because of police cuts?

Cuts everywhere.

I'm not an expert in this, but per head, what's is our police budget compared to the rest of the world? Acid attacks only seem prevelent in a very small proportion of the world, which surprised me.

A lot of it is gang related. Cuts and austerity have exacerbated the gang problem, hence a rise in these kind of attacks. It's all linear.

Are you sure that they just didn't get Mr Muscled?

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:58 am A lot of it is gang related. Cuts and austerity have exacerbated the gang problem, hence a rise in these kind of attacks. It's all linear.

Shocking we appear to have one of the worst gang cultures in the whole world.

My understanding was a lot of acid attacks are religion/honour related, but I know moped related acid attacks are on the rise too.

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:27 am

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:58 am A lot of it is gang related. Cuts and austerity have exacerbated the gang problem, hence a rise in these kind of attacks. It's all linear.

Shocking we appear to have one of the worst gang cultures in the whole world.

My understanding was a lot of acid attacks are religion/honour related, but I know moped related acid attacks are on the rise too.

Probably because we have a lot of different nationalities in this country who all bring their gang culture with them, which leads to competition, turf wars and copycatting.

But so do Germany, France, Sweden etc etc, and that's just looking at Europe.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:31 am

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:27 am

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:58 am A lot of it is gang related. Cuts and austerity have exacerbated the gang problem, hence a rise in these kind of attacks. It's all linear.

Shocking we appear to have one of the worst gang cultures in the whole world.

My understanding was a lot of acid attacks are religion/honour related, but I know moped related acid attacks are on the rise too.

Probably because we have a lot of different nationalities in this country who all bring their gang culture with them, which leads to competition, turf wars and copycatting.

Or maybe it’s just a financial thing I would have at a guess these products are cheaper than a knife gun and probably don’t leave much in the way of fingerprints etc

We have really high knife crime rates though don't we?

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:37 am We have really high knife crime rates though don't we?

In reality I don’t think we probably do have high knife crime rates it seems to be the flavour for the media not just in London but around the UK
I was brought up in Leyton and they was always someone getting stabbed/shot/baseball batted etc nothing new to me

That's ok then.

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:33 am But so do Germany, France, Sweden etc etc, and that's just looking at Europe.

They might have similar issues but they are not going to be reported over here as their media isn't as sensationalist as ours.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am
I was brought up in Leyton and they was always someone getting stabbed/shot/baseball batted etc nothing new to me

So it's not down to austerity then?

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:49 am

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:33 am But so do Germany, France, Sweden etc etc, and that's just looking at Europe.

They might have similar issues but they are not going to be reported over here as their media isn't as sensationalist as ours.

So you agree the sensationalist media are overplaying it then? Interesting, cos that seems at odds with the rest of what you're saying. Glad to have you on board!

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:50 am

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am
I was brought up in Leyton and they was always someone getting stabbed/shot/baseball batted etc nothing new to me

So it's not down to austerity then?

As you stated on the other thread in your own words it’s scum apparently

Its a crime that has been happening for quite a few years in amongst other Countries, India and Pakistan, especially when young women refuse the advances of men in courtship or marriage, its a mindset of ''If I cannot have you, then I shall make sure that no one else will want you ''
Such a wicked and barbaric thing to do, especially when done to young women as revenge for advances being rejected.

Well for me the worst thing is the media reporting it almost like a trend and the youth like to follow trends

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:44 pm Well for me the worst thing is the media reporting it almost like a trend and the youth like to follow trends

Brexit isn’t a trend then - the youth despise it.